JohnL Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 It was nice of her to wait until the end of Euro 2016 anyway. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Does that mean May gets elected unopposed, or does Gove step up?... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1922 commitee say there will be no more election, and Gove is backing May fully (no doubt hoping to keep hold of his job!).So its basically a coronation now. We shall see what happens next, but personally I'm grateful it's been resolved fast, and glad that if we do have to Brexit, at least the person in charge is willing to slow it down enough to do it carefully. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected either by the Tory membership or the country as a whole. Brilliant!... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected either> by the Tory membership or the country as a whole.> Brilliant!...It happens.. Hitler was never elected.. Hindenburg got the majority vote. and the rest ia history.Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected either> by the Tory membership or the country as a whole.> Brilliant!...Same happened with Gordon Brown. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> red devil Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected> either> > by the Tory membership or the country as a> whole.> > Brilliant!...> > Same happened with Gordon Brown.That went well :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Well he didn't last long, so fingers crossed... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> red devil Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected> either> > by the Tory membership or the country as a> whole.> > Brilliant!...> > It happens.. Hitler was never elected.. Hindenburg> got the majority vote. and the rest ia history.Not true Foxy. Hindenburg was indeed elected and appointed Hitler as Chancellor, but Hitler later won an election as the largest party, though needed to go into coalition to form government. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> red devil Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected> either> > by the Tory membership or the country as a> whole.> > Brilliant!...> > Same happened with Gordon Brown.It did. At that time Blair wanted to offload what was seen as a poisoned chalice. Compared to the state of the country right now, that poisoned chalice looks like a strawberry milkshake complete with ice cream.May has said that what with Brexit negotiations to worry about, a GE would not be a good idea just now. But having not been voted for even by her party, I can't see how we can not have one within the year. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected either> by the Tory membership or the country as a whole.> Brilliant!...It's called 'taking back control' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 So May will be PM. No election therefore. Does that mean it could happen now? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So May will be PM. No election therefore. Does> that mean it could happen now?The parliamentary party have to decide whether or not to reinstate Gove (as second runner up in the last vote) and let the membership choose between them, I think they're meeting tomorrow. If they decide against rerunning the ballot, Cameron can go to the Queen any time at all, resign and ask her to confirm his successor. Most views I've seen today suggest he might wait until the end of this parliamentary session (July 21st) to give her a chance to set up her cabinet. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Does that also create an opportunity for various people in the party to beg Boris to reconsider, do you think? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> red devil Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected> either> > by the Tory membership or the country as a> whole.> > Brilliant!...> > It's called 'taking back control'Unlike when Brown took over from Blair, we have not just a new PM, but effectively a completely new manifesto. We're also about to oversee the biggest changes to our constitution, legal system and all manner of associated regulations, than at any single time in our history. All of this to be undertaken by an unelected PM. Way to take back control / regain sovereignty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Robert Poste's Child Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Does that also create an opportunity for various> people in the party to beg Boris to reconsider, do> you think?As far as I can see he wouldn't be allowed back in the contest, only Gove as second runner up. Nothing to stop Boris leaping in with a challenge to May's leadership once she's in any time he fancies of course, but surely such a loyal chap who puts the interests of the country first and foremost wouldn't risk further destabilisation? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 May will be in place as PM by Wednesday evening. Cameron will step down after swan song question time on Wednesday lunchtime.Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1021974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny1 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I agree with rahrahrah.I'm mightily relieved that we're not getting Andrea Leadsom. But I'm furious that the Conservatives (the party that sells itself as the guardian of stability and continuity) has, through careless government, created an unprecedented economic and constitutional crisis, which is likely to lead to the break-up of the UK, and is now presenting itself as a 'safe pair of hands' to navigate this storm of it's own creation. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DulwichFox Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > red devil Wrote:> >> --------------------------------------------------> > > -----> > > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected> > either> > > by the Tory membership or the country as a> > whole.> > > Brilliant!...> > > > It happens.. Hitler was never elected..> Hindenburg> > got the majority vote. and the rest ia history.> > Not true Foxy. Hindenburg was indeed elected and> appointed Hitler as Chancellor, but Hitler later> won an election as the largest party, though> needed to go into coalition to form government. It was a bit like the Referendum.. lets a re-run .. and a bit of jiggling 'till I win.. It wasn't clean. Remember Hitler spent time in prison.. In December 19, 1924, Adolf Hitler was released from Landsberg Prison. He served eight months of a five-year sentence for high treason for his role in leading an attempted coup known as the Beer Hall Putsch.Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Loz Wrote:> > Not true Foxy. Hindenburg was indeed elected and> > appointed Hitler as Chancellor, but Hitler later> > won an election as the largest party, though> > needed to go into coalition to form government.> > It was a bit like the Referendum.. lets a re-run> .. and a bit of jiggling 'till I win..No, not at all. Hitler's party won the most seats in all three elections before the Nazi's took over, but they didn't win enough seats to form government... and neither did anyone else. So they were reheld.So more like Harold Wilson's minority government of 1974, where another election had to be held later in the year. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I couldn't help but notice the similarities between May and Thatchers victory speeches. Ok so May didn't quote St. Francis of Assisi, but we all know what a false promise that turned out to be. I expect the same from May. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Blah Blah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I couldn't help but notice the similarities> between May and Thatchers victory speeches. Ok so> May didn't quote St. Francis of Assisi, but we all> know what a false promise that turned out to be. I> expect the same from May.I am a bit scared now...http://i.imgur.com/mTZ9YU5.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 The really insidious bit is that Cameron, Boris, Farage and Gove all get to sit back and watch while the changes they were in various ways responsible for inciting are inflicted on the country, and at the same time Theresa May will legitimately claim it's not her fault as she voted Remain. So everyone gets to keep their hands clean. Which is nice. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 :D Brilliant reposte Rendel :DCameron, Boris, Farage and co will be looking at how best they can line their pockets from the market turbulance. Farage set up an offshore account two years ago, which he hasn't used as yet but..... I wonder what all the 'common' people who voted UKIP would make of that? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyDreadful Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Actions speak louder than words...here's a look at what Theresa May says and what she actually does: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-prime-minister-andrea-leadsom-policies-voting-record-human-rights-what-did-she-mean-a7130961.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/113578-new-prime-minister-and-outlook-factual-update/page/3/#findComment-1022118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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