East Dulwich

[Loz]

Louisa Wrote:

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> A few people have called me a AILS, not sure what

> that stands for but its nice to be branded.

Aldi, Iceland and Lidl Shopper?

[KalamityKel]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Elphinstone's Army Wrote:

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> > Salsaboy Wrote:

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>

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> > > Perhaps Elphinstone Army is a MILF.

> >

> >

> > yes she is. without a doubt. eat your hearts

> out

> > sexist, misogynist, bullying, domineering,

> > mobbing, churlish and parochial posters, of

> either

> > gender, with a toss of my short blonde hair I

> am

> > off to the

> > Picture House, carry on without me, I'm out of

> > here.

>

> Good answer Elph, keep marching (though with

> better success than your namesake).

Both these responses are what gets me grrrr! Are you both like those pathetic neo feminists who simply stir up trouble completely unnecessarily with silly comments/accusations of others being sexist and all that? Are you? You're comments are more offensive than anything else!

You're sitting in the Lounge... serious topics of discussion don't always appear. Whether the OP is serious or taking the mick I really don't see how it's any different from declaring someone prefers big busted women, well endowed men OR even someone who prefers red wine over white!

[aerie]

KK, your disagreeable comments make no sense

[Otta]

What doesn't make sense about them? Because you disagree with her doesn't mean her comments make no sense, they seem pretty straight forward.

[rendelharris]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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I really don't see how

> it's any different from declaring someone prefers

> big busted women, well endowed men OR even someone

> who prefers red wine over white!

So if someone comes on the forum and says "I notice there are a lot of big busted women about the area, if you are one lemme know and hit me up!" you're cool with that?

[tomskip]

Dear Lord, some of the attitudes on this thread are pretty jurassic. Just for your info KalamityKel, it is not pathetic or neo feminist or stirring up trouble to object to the opening post of this thread, whatever op's motivation (or excuse) for posting it. Isn't it all a bit Carry On? I thought we'd moved on since then.

[KalamityKel]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> KalamityKel Wrote:

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> I really don't see how

> > it's any different from declaring someone

> prefers

> > big busted women, well endowed men OR even

> someone

> > who prefers red wine over white!

>

> So if someone comes on the forum and says "I

> notice there are a lot of big busted women about

> the area, if you are one lemme know and hit me

> up!" you're cool with that?

Yes I am! At least he's up front in what he is after. Would you prefer the leering silent type?

Each to their own!

[dirac]

weird thread for 2016

[rendelharris]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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> Yes I am! At least he's up front in what he is

> after. Would you prefer the leering silent type?

> Each to their own!

I'd prefer to think that my wife, sisters and other female friends could walk round the area without being leered at, silently or otherwise. An impossible wish, I realise, but I would hope at least that when someone pops up saying, basically, that they've been leering at a certain of type of woman round the area and inviting them to "hit him up" that it would be recognised as the sort of creepy comment that it is rather than having people cheering it on as a bit of "harmless banter."

[Jules-and-Boo]

oh, I don't know - women can be equally guilty of leering at men.... it's just somehow more acceptable....

[rendelharris]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> oh, I don't know - women can be equally guilty of

> leering at men.... it's just somehow more

> acceptable....

Well yes (though it's many a year since any have leered at me, I'm sure) but (and I realise I'm going to damn myself in perpetuity as politically correct etc to some on here, but oh well) men don't generally have to worry that the leering has the potential to turn into something more threatening, do they?

[Alan Medic]

What exactly does leering constitute? Having looked up various definitions of it I can't help thing it's different from an admiring glance or is someone going to tell me that's wrong too?

[TheArtfulDogger]

Rendleharris wrote

> men

> don't generally have to worry that the leering has

> the potential to turn into something more

> threatening, do they?

Oh bugger ....

[rendelharris]

TheArtfulDogger Wrote:

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> Rendleharris wrote

>

> > men

> > don't generally have to worry that the leering

> has

> > the potential to turn into something more

> > threatening, do they?

>

>

> Oh bugger ....

Don't worry Dogger - I'm sure nobody objects to mutual leering.

[Otta]

Why are we talking about leering? We don't know if the OP has leered at anyone, only that he'd "noticed" attractive women in the area.

Or is any looking at someone of the opposite sex now classed as leering?

God this forum has started taking itself just way too seriously. This is the lounge, it's always been a place for nonsense, and this thread is no worse than tons of others. But the responses have changed over the years.

[rendelharris]

Otta Wrote:

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> Why are we talking about leering? We don't know if

> the OP has leered at anyone, only that he'd

> "noticed" attractive women in the area.

When he describes said women as MILFs, short for "Moms I'd Like to F**k," and asks them to "hit me up" I don't think it's unfair to assume he's doing a bit more than "noticing." Obviously one person's harmless banter is another's distasteful and slightly sinister vulgarity - as a former rugby player and lover of pub chats etc I'm well up for a bit of bawdiness and robust humour, I just felt the original post was unfunny and slightly disturbing, as was his later "I'm a young adult and love my older women."

You pointed out to me earlier on another thread, Otta, rightly, that I was on a public forum and that has certain connotations - would it be OK to start going on in a pub about there being lots of mums I'd like to f**k in there and asking if any would like to hit me up? Sorry, just feels dodgy to me.

[KalamityKel]

Otta Wrote:

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> Why are we talking about leering? We don't know if

> the OP has leered at anyone, only that he'd

> "noticed" attractive women in the area.

>

> Or is any looking at someone of the opposite sex

> now classed as leering?

>

>

>

> God this forum has started taking itself just way

> too seriously. This is the lounge, it's always

> been a place for nonsense, and this thread is no

> worse than tons of others. But the responses have

> changed over the years.

Sorry, my fault for bringing the term "leering" into it all. Wasn't my intention to stoke the fire further.

[Otta]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Why are we talking about leering? We don't know

> if

> > the OP has leered at anyone, only that he'd

> > "noticed" attractive women in the area.

>

>

> When he describes said women as MILFs, short for

> "Moms I'd Like to F**k," and asks them to "hit me

> up" I don't think it's unfair to assume he's doing

> a bit more than "noticing." Obviously one

> person's harmless banter is another's distasteful

> and slightly sinister vulgarity - as a former

> rugby player and lover of pub chats etc I'm well

> up for a bit of bawdiness and robust humour, I

> just felt the original post was unfunny and

> slightly disturbing, as was his later "I'm a young

> adult and love my older women."

As you rightly say, it's a matter of individual's take on things. I don't think it was remotely funny, and would be surprised if anyone did. But I'm just not getting the sinister / disturbing thing.

I suspect it was a pissed up "joke" that hasn't gone down very well.

[Loz]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Well yes (though it's many a year since any have leered at me, I'm sure) but (and I realise I'm

> going to damn myself in perpetuity as politically correct etc to some on here, but oh well) men

> don't generally have to worry that the leering has the potential to turn into something more

> threatening, do they?

Yes, because all men are potential rapists, aren't they?!?! Jesus wept. I thought we'd got past that crap.

Hello? 1970's? I think I've found one of your attitudes here. Would you like to collect it?

[rendelharris]

Loz Wrote:

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> rendelharris Wrote:

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> > Well yes (though it's many a year since any have

> leered at me, I'm sure) but (and I realise I'm

> > going to damn myself in perpetuity as

> politically correct etc to some on here, but oh

> well) men

> > don't generally have to worry that the leering

> has the potential to turn into something more

> > threatening, do they?

>

> Yes, because all men are potential rapists, aren't

> they?!?! Jesus wept. I thought we'd got past that

> crap.

>

> Hello? 1970's? I think I've found one of your

> attitudes here. Would you like to collect it?

No, I don't regard all men as potential rapists, but I do regard men who who think it's acceptable to display sexually aggressive attitudes in terms of comments and behaviour in public as having the potential to become dangerous (not referring to the OP, just what we're discussing in general). There is, whether you wish to accept it or not, a difference between men and women in that respect.

Put it this way: if I were coming home from the pub late at night on my own and a couple of girls started following me saying "Get your c0ck out" I'd probably have a bit of banter with them or at worst ignore them, as I'd still feel safe. If my wife were coming home alone from the pub late at night and two men started following her saying "get your tits out" I'd encourage her to run like hell and call the police. If that's a 70s attitude so be it, I make no apologies for it.

[Loz]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> If my wife were coming home alone from the pub late at night and two men started following her saying

> "get your tits out" I'd encourage her to run like hell and call the police.

Nice strawman.

We're talking about 'leering', which is a lot different to your analogy. Originally the point was a forum post asking women of a certain description to contact the poster. You've had to ramp things up to an extreme to try and prove your point.

Can't you stick to the subject?

[????]

Gawd, when does the bloody teachers' strike end?

[rendelharris]

Loz Wrote:

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> rendelharris Wrote:

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> > If my wife were coming home alone from the pub

> late at night and two men started following her

> saying

> > "get your tits out" I'd encourage her to run

> like hell and call the police.

>

> Nice strawman.

>

> We're talking about 'leering', which is a lot

> different to your analogy. Originally the point

> was a forum post asking women of a certain

> description to contact the poster. You've had to

> ramp things up to an extreme to try and prove your

> point.

>

> Can't you stick to the subject?

Leering: look or gaze in a lascivious or unpleasant way.

I think it is relevant to point out that displaying certain types of behaviour can lead into others, and that's the way the discussion has gone - and quite an interesting one I think it is in terms of the different attitudes which prevail towards such behaviour and comments.

[red devil]

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> Gawd, when does the bloody teachers' strike end?

:))

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