Issue for Mr Barber, Mitchell, Ms Joy...Resign or defect!

[Mick Mac]

TonyQuinn Wrote:

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> I repeat....please the great and good of East

> Dulwich....bugger off if you're not going to

> address my question! Boring, like most things end

> up on these forum...in fact most it's always the

> same people who spoil it all for everyone.

> Address the issue if you want to comment but my

> question was addressed to the people above.

Tony - I'll be honest - I don't think you have any chance whatsoever of a response to this from the people its addressed to - but try a PM to James Barber.

[Andystar]

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> woofmarkthedog Wrote:

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> > What time is it...?

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Damn u Katie, u beat me to it, thats exactly what I thought too

[woofmarkthedog]

Its always.....

HAMMER TIME

( well in my house anyway )

Oh, this has cheered me up no end...

And he does "running man"......BRILLIANTLY

W**F

[Huguenot]

I think whether you are frustrated or not with the coalition comes down to whether you're prepared to sacrfice common sense on the altar of ideology.

There's no doub that LD is centre left. I think someone once calculated that only 4% of LD MPs could be considered 'right' of an ideological centre ground.

However, not compromising with the Tories would be self defeating. It represented the only realistic opportunity for the LDs to push through their manifesto commitments.

Arrogant Labour die hards thought that an LD coalition would come to them by default, and refused to compromise on an agenda that's frankly tired and ineffective, and more importantly was voted against be the electorate.

Moreover, I agree with those who think a failure to compromise would have precipitated another GE in which the Tories would have walked with the Trophy.

Hence LD compromise is the sanest of sacrifices to ensure that we keep left-wing pressure on an otherwise commited right wing agenda that threatens our entire future with their xenophobic rejection of Europe.

[jenny1840]

Arrogant labour hards certainly do not want to get into bed with a bunch of gutless, watered down conservative, science geeks from the contemporary wing of the Eton diffusion line , you know the cheaper upper middle with school fee rebate mob!

[????]

Special Brew at breakfast AFN?

[peckhamboy]

Has anyone even considered that if this works, it could in fact marginalise the more right-wing element of the Conservatives and result in a more centrist government that adopts policies from both left and right of centre? After all, who is it that decreed that all politics must be one side or the other of the centre? My guess is that in practice the vast majority of the country are neither die-hard conservatives nor die-hard socialists so why should the government not reflect that?

Personally I voted conservative because I felt that Gordon was so far up his own backside he was no longer capable of rational government, and because Labour overspent so much in the good times that the cupboard is bare now so tax and spend is no longer a viable option and the public sector is in danger of becoming far too expensive to sustain. I liked some of the LD's policies (especially on the income tax threshold) but felt that they would have been dangerously naive in government. I am nervertheless slightly nervous about the small core of very right-wing MPs in the Conservatives.

As far as I'm concerned, this arrangement with the LDs is the best of all possible worlds and I hope that both sides give it the chance to succeed. It may prove to be a false dawn but I for one am quite excited about what this could mean for politics in this country. So please, set aside tribal loyalties and class war and give it a chance. It really can't be worse than Gordon.

[Huguenot]

Sure, jenny500BC says it all.

It shows us that the die hards and their supporters are prejudiced, tribal, antagonistic, divisive, short-sighted and prone to vendetta.

They've got all the social contribution of John Lydon, and none of the wit or the irony.

No way to run a country, and a short cut to political obscurity. ;-)

[Huguenot]

Oh, and well said peckhamboy!

[Michael Palaeologus]

Well said Peckhamboy.

As to the original question. Its partisan and driven by the very tribal loyalties that need to be eased out of politics.

We all recognise it as the rhetorical point scoring statement that it is.

[????]

Oh come on you have to think of the physcology(sp) ....as we speak many people over 35 are preparing their banners and getting their megaphones out for

"Maggie, Maggiee, Maggie out, out , out" ...a chance to revisit their youth

Meanwhile the unders 35s can't wait to take part in a - 'Ashes to Ashes' style retro-80s politics, the 80s are very 'in' you know.

In the meantime, we have an unpleasant few years ahead because of our defeceit and the economic situation and we desperately need some 'grown ups' to try and sort it out.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Good Lord Yes!

Quids you are quite correct. We are all in a collective coma and are living in the 1980's. Heston's cooking toasted sandwiches and my phone has grown ten-fold over night.

Of course this means that the Labour Party are still in Stalinist/Leninist cat fight, the upside being that their leader is a fellow Ginger.

Another possible option is that the LibDems are actually split. With Liberals comfortable with the Conservatives and the Social Democrats comfortable with Labour. That aside, if this partnership works we could end up with a more European style of politics with a Christian Democrat block and a Social Democrat block with a number of Indies and minor parties.

With some form electoral reform we will finally break away from the polarised knock about politics that has blighted our country and create a far more representative form of governance.

[*Bob*]

It would have been enjoyable for a choice moment or two to see Cameron, apoplectic with rage, should Clegg and Labour have got it together, but I have to accept that this had to be the best (and most realistic) outcome.

Credit to Cameron (yikes!) for going for a full coalition, with meaningful LD cabinet representation - for the duration of a full term (or at least the intention of doing so). It's not just the measly number of seats Clegg is bringing with him, it's a very large share of the national vote.

The natural cycle since I was born seems to have required the Conservatives to make the money but then Labour to spend it.. or too much of it.. So who knows.. this could be the start of a different way of doing things. I intend to at least open a window and take a gulp of fresh air - before cynically shutting it and muttering yeah, right..

[Brendan]

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> who knows.. this could be the start of a different

> way of doing things.

Let?s fucking hope so.

Save me from ripping my hair out at the narrow minded, tribally stratified, idiocy based on outdated ideology that people insist on approaching politics with.

Peckhamboy, Huguenot and MickyP summed up my thoughts less abrasively and more eloquently than I would have.

[*Bob*]

I have it on good authority that Cameron's wedding set of square plates is being carried into number ten as we speak.

[Huguenot]

Isn't it important to bring 'intent' into the equation?

We have square plates. My wife bought them because they were pretty.

She's Canadian, she doesn't do social climbing. She be mortified to learn that she'd fallen fould of such an obvious technical transgression, I don't know how I'm going to tell her!

Hee hee B)

[Brendan]

Edited for my own personal safety.

[Moos]

Here we go, blame it on the wives... ;-)

[Brendan]

I'm quite sure I have no idea what you mean.

[Huguenot]

Well how many blokes would by kitchen utensils if it wasn't Valentines Day?

[woofmarkthedog]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> Isn't it important to bring 'intent' into the

> equation?

>

> We have square plates. My wife bought them because

> they were pretty.

>

> She's Canadian, she doesn't do social climbing.

> She be mortified to learn that she'd fallen fould

> of such an obvious technical transgression, I

> don't know how I'm going to tell her!

>

> Hee hee B)

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Tell her....

..when you're blinding drunk & her pms is at it's highest

That's what I'd do if I were you

See how many plates she "inserts' into you then

W**F