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Mrs TP Wrote:

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> The northern end of LL, so on a map the top ;)



So if I climb Scafell from the northern side, am I starting at the top of the path and reaching the summit at the bottom of it?!

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> > Isn't the roundabout at the top of Lordship

> Lane?? :-D

>

> No! It's the bottom! LL is on a hill...


LL is not on a hill, is it? Grove Lane/Dog Kennel Hill is, but not LL.

Loz Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

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> > Loz Wrote:

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> > > Isn't the roundabout at the top of Lordship

> > Lane?? :-D

> >

> > No! It's the bottom! LL is on a hill...

>

> LL is not on a hill, is it? Grove Lane/Dog Kennel

> Hill is, but not LL.



Try getting on yer bike and freewheeling 'up' to the library.


Eta, from gg

Loz Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

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> > Loz Wrote:

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> > > Isn't the roundabout at the top of Lordship

> > Lane?? :-D

> >

> > No! It's the bottom! LL is on a hill...

>

> LL is not on a hill, is it? Grove Lane/Dog Kennel

> Hill is, but not LL.


Being a nerd I checked on Google earth - the Lordship Lane roundabout is 50 feet above sea level, the south east end where it becomes the south circular is 155 feet...

According to a topographic website, the elevation at the roundabout is 23m (75 ft) above sea level at the roundabout and 55m (180 ft) at the junction with Upland Road. The distance between those points is 1.75km, that gives a gradient of about 1.82:100 or 1.46:80. A 'flat' roof generally has a gradient of 1:80.


That's hardly a 'hill'. It barely rates as a 'gentle incline'.


ETA: I think I just out-nerded rendelharris

Loz Wrote:

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> According to a topographic website, the elevation

> at the roundabout is 23m (75 ft) above sea level

> at the roundabout and 55m (180 ft) at the junction

> with Upland Road. The distance between those

> points is 1.75km, that gives a gradient of about

> 1.82:100 or 1.46:80. A 'flat' roof generally has a

> gradient of 1:80.

>

> That's hardly a 'hill'. It barely rates as a

> 'gentle incline'.

>

> ETA: I think I just out-nerded rendelharris


That's nothing to be proud of, you know, more worried about...the thing that makes LL a bugger to ride up (or down, as you wish) is that though there's theoretically a gentle slope from start to finish it's really mainly flattish but with two buggering steep bits. They certainly feel like hills.

Either way one thing to fix at that roundabout to get folk to use indicators - I've just seen a bump when someone turning right from the north end of Lordship Lane took the left hand lane into the junction and then made a wide sweep right and hit someone who thought, I guess, that the person from the Lordship lane side was going towards East Dulwich station

rendelharris Wrote:

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> though there's theoretically a gentle slope from start to

> finish it's really mainly flattish but with two

> buggering steep bits. They certainly feel like hills.


This! Big hill! Down.

JohnL Wrote:

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> Top is the bit facing central London (or

> Buckingham palace) ;)


Close but Central London is Eleanor's Cross outside Charing Cross Railway Station.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/a45a40f1a26bdfa4169986bb12d9f1a0a428f1e3.jpg


Foxy


P.S. The roundabout is at the Bottom of Lordship Lane :)

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Close but Central London is Eleanor's Cross

> outside Charing Cross Railway Station.

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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/a45a40f1a26bdfa

> 4169986bb12d9f1a0a428f1e3.jpg

>


In the spirit of outnerding which I'm very pleased to see on this thread, the centre of London isn't in fact Eleanor's Cross outside Charing Cross, which is a replica of the original, built in 1863. The original Eleanor's Cross stood at the top of Whitehall where the statue of Charles I is now; if you look carefully around there you'll find a plaque marking the original site and stating that all London distances are to measured from there.

Rendelharris,

Thanks, I also had believed that distances were measured from the cross in front of Charing Cross Station, but your answer still leaves me with a little confusion. You say that the original Eleanor's Cross stood at the "top" of Whitehall. I assume by "top" you mean the end at which the Cross stood.


Which end of Whitehall is that?

MarkT

No idea what is right, I call it the bottom by the roundabout, also call the end of rye lane by Tesco and Barclays the bottom!!

However, as to the original thread, I picked up the bricks that had been left in the road and lumped them up onto the grass of the roundabout. Always worried about bikes and moter vehicles hitting these and causing a bigger accident!!!

Actually, second Tuesday in a row I've done this!!!

Hope Southwark council collect them and fix it soon

rendelharris Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Close but Central London is Eleanor's Cross

> > outside Charing Cross Railway Station.

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> >

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/a45a40f1a26bdfa

>

> > 4169986bb12d9f1a0a428f1e3.jpg

> >

>

> In the spirit of outnerding which I'm very pleased

> to see on this thread, the centre of London isn't

> in fact Eleanor's Cross outside Charing Cross,

> which is a replica of the original, built in 1863.

> The original Eleanor's Cross stood at the top of

> Whitehall where the statue of Charles I is now; if

> you look carefully around there you'll find a

> plaque marking the original site and stating that

> all London distances are to measured from there.


Yes I realised it had been moved. From the same article that I posted..


Indeed I think you are correct. I should of read further down I just had it in my head It was the Charing Cross Station.


Fair play.


Foxy

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