Azira Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116904Govia Thameslink took over the franchise for Southern Rail in July 2015. Since then the services on most lines have deteriorated to the extent that they cannot be allowed to continue to run the franchise. During the last weeks prior to Christmas, services were simply not fit for purpose. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Yesterday evening, two trains in a row were cancelled and the third was delayed by 15 mins. There was very little information available to the waiting passengers. Friday evening was a similar story. The "lack of staff" and "conductor sickness" excuses they are using are insulting. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 There is currently a war between the unions and Southern over staffing, with staff calling in 'sick' as part of some surreptitious campaign. The RMT is striking today as part of the same war. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 That is one story. One rumour is that Southern/Govia/whoever have banned staff from doing overtime or swapping shifts, in some sort of tit-for-tat move, which is why there's never any staff available.Highly doubt today's strike will make any noticeable difference to the disgraceful level of service. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azira Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 FOAD, I was quoting the blurb for the petition in the OP.I've heard that too Jeremy but it doesn't make much sense. One of the complaints I'd heard from staff before this conductor issue was that they were running the staffing timetables in reliance on overtime, meaning there was no slack. It's hard to believe Southern would be deliberately banning OT etc as it would be making a rod for their own back. This must be costing them a small fortune in delay compensation alone.If they are now working to rule, the Union members would be crippling the service. That does seem to make it unofficial industrial action. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED_moots Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Signed. Terrible service for ages\years. I have also read that southern have no slack in their staffing capacity and have not hired and trained enough staff over the years. No doubt they are culpable. However the unions are just punishing commuters and living in the past. Cannot stand their bullying tactics. The work at London bridge has also had a much bigger impact that anyone admitted particularly for services arriving at platform 15. Fewer trains run than before the works started with regular disruption. Network Rail and Southern should be ashamed and the compensation policy is totally inadequate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azira Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 For those who haven't clicked the link, the petition is only a few hundred shy of the 10K mark and will close in 8 days. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azira Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 How is this not directly relevant to ED?? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 They should remove any service from Govia Thameslink. Service levels sound like standard Thameslink. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingMummy Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Thanks for this - will sign Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111526-remove-the-franchise-for-southern-rail-from-govia-thameslink/#findComment-1012643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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