Alan Medic Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Why is that wrong? If it refers to leaseholders, they aren't tenants. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 True dat. I'll edit Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 However, I'm sure they'd represent any tenant who didn't need legal aid or pro bono.Or who was a tenant of an existing client. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
piazzola Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 It should be taken down. Delmar solicitors should be ashamed honestly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennys Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I think it should be removed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphinstone's Army Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 steveo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> However, I'm sure they'd represent any tenant who> didn't need legal aid or pro bono.> > Or who was a tenant of an existing client.the existing client being the landlord - Steveo throw away your spade, you are out of your depth - literally and figuratively Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Surely a law firm should WANT to take it down once they realise they (perhaps inadvertently - maybe they just asked Londis for permission?) have infringed a law. I don't see what else they could do but take it down themselves, otherwise they've compromised their own integrity. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanglysteve Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 James, have you made your concerns known tot he law firm. As Robert Postes Child say, its likely if you make them aware that they will respond without the need for formal proceedings. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaila Shah Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I think if they don't have permission, the sign should come down. If it is supposed to be directional,then maybe a mini road map showing ALL the retailers and businesses on NX Road should be put up in its place. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Shaila Shah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I think if they don't have permission, the sign> should come down. If it is supposed to be> directional,then maybe a mini road map showing ALL> the retailers and businesses on NX Road should be> put up in its place.Excellent idea, but to be useful would have to be kept up to date. I am unclear who exactly has flouted the planning regulations: the owners of the wall who have allowed the sign to be erected on their property, and no doubt charging rent, or the solicitors. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Mr Army: My original response was wrong and I admitted it. What I meant was that Glazer Delmar will work for anyone who can afford to pay them.And I suspect you knew that was what I meant Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1005990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbage Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I suggest the Community Council invite a representative of the relevant department to explain to the bewildered public exactly how 'visual harm' is defined, how it is measured, what the threshold of 'sufficiency' is, who and how decided on that threshold, details of any consultation held and, of course, documentary proof that the Council has never enforced against anything objectively measured as being below that threshold.I'm sure they'd be delighted that we're so interested in their work, and be eager to explain.And, if not, at least we'll know who they're really working for. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beej Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Burbage Wrote:> > I'm sure they'd be delighted that we're so> interested in their work, and be eager to> explain.I still can't believe that anyone is. In fact, I can't actually believe this conversation is still going on and we haven't got anything better to do (myself included).... (yawn) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Elphinstone's Army Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- Steveo> throw away your spade, you are out of your depth -> literally and figurativelyHow can he be "literally" out of his depth?Unless he is presently in water?! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedges Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Its been there years - who cares - move on and spend our tax payer money dealing with things that actually matter please. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Cedges Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Its been there years - who cares - move on and spend our tax payer money dealing with things that> actually matter please.The problem is that this sort of thing sets precedents. If more people decide to put up advertising boards and charge rent for them, they will use this one and say that the council tacitly approved it via inaction. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beej Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Trouble is I still don't care, precedent or not. I'm trying to care honest I am. But I have to agree with Cedges - move on, there has to be more important things that actually matter surely, if there isn't, how privileged are we!? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphinstone's Army Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 steveo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Mr Army: My original response was wrong and I> admitted it. What I meant was that Glazer Delmar> will work for anyone who can afford to pay them.> > And I suspect you knew that was what I meanthello steveo, I did not say I could not afford the advice from GD, it would not matter, they do not represent or work for the tenant, and this wry throw away line of mine has gathered speed. It was an alert as much as anything. Thank you for your reply, the sign will, I suspect, stay. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphinstone's Army Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Elphinstone's Army Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> Steveo> > throw away your spade, you are out of your depth> -> > literally and figuratively> Yes ! you are quite right Sue, where that came from who knows, thanks for pointing it out, Confused by Idioms!> > How can he be "literally" out of his depth?> > Unless he is presently in water?! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 This is a test case. The thin end of the wedge. The droplet before the deluge. If we don't come together and make a stand, shitty walls everywhere will be festooned with shiny signs and it is the children - our little ones - who will pay for our indolence. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1006274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&G Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 It ought to be removed. It doesn't matter if it's not causing harm - it requires permission and they didn't get it. Planners seem all for it so it's unlikely they'll be refused. Rules is rules, and all that... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1007028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Mind you, if that huge bee mural didn't constitute visual harm I'm not sure what would. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1007355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Robert Poste's Child Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Mind you, if that huge bee mural didn't constitute> visual harm I'm not sure what would.I loved the bee mural! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1007385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laddy Muck Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Sue Wrote:-------------------> I loved the bee mural!Me too! There used to be a spider too...is it still there? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1007387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzgeo Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 If the council is not taking that off, lets just print 100 banners and spam the streets with them, see if the council cares. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/109261-insufficient-visual-harm-what-do-you-think/page/2/#findComment-1007392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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