MarkE Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Well, the buses up to Denmark Hill are already a lottery from North Cross Road onwards. There is a viable option to walk (ten minutes from EDW to DMK if you're relatively able-bodied), but of course the services at Denmark Hill are going to suffer huge knock-on consequences.Many commuters from Peckham Rye will surely switch to the Thameslink route, and by Denmark Hill that'll be rammed, too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.b Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 There aren't even strikes on our line. The Metro services through EDW are already driver only operated and have been for a long time. No idea what the justification is for this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wroed Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The 8.02 terminates at South Bermondsey so there are actually on 3 trains to London Bridge between 6am and 9am where the current timetable has 12! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkE Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 wroed Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The 8.02 terminates at South Bermondsey so there> are actually on 3 trains to London Bridge between> 6am and 9am where the current timetable has 12!Good spot - I'll amend the listing above accordingly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 d.b Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There aren't even strikes on our line. The Metro> services through EDW are already driver only> operated and have been for a long time. No idea> what the justification is for this.To shift drivers onto busier (and more profitable) mainline routes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzgeo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 What am gonna say might sound harsh, but if you are working for Southern I hope you get cancer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardelia Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 d.b Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Surely the government has to make an example out> of Southern. Despite woeful service, labour> relations, and customer satisfaction, they are> guaranteed profits each year. Not only that, but> they have gone up year after year, despite> requiring large government subsidies to run. > > http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article> -3452793/Go-Ahead-profits-soar-17-amid-deluge-cust> omer-complaints.htmlAbout 6 or 7 years ago, when First Capital Connect ran the Thameslink service, it was an absolute shambles. Commuters suffered cancellations, severe delays, short-formed trains, missing out intermediate stops, severe overcrowding etc. on a daily basis. Punctuality dropped to 60% overall and I was averaging more than 2 delay repay vouchers per week, which is some going considering the minimum delay to get one is 30 minutes. A petition was started to ask the government to strip FirstGroup of the franchise but the closest we ever got to a result was Lord Adonis warning FCC that their service was "substandard". Which wasn't much consolation.If there's anything I learnt from the FCC fiasco, it's to make sure you claim a refund for every single eligible delay. The only language the TOCs understand is money, so if enough people start impacting on their profits through claiming back compensation for delays they might - just might - take a tiny bit of notice. I wish you well with southern but I don't hold out much hope that you'll get anywhere with your complaints, in every sense of the word! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 For the afternoon trains from London Bridge to East Dulwich, I think the only route is now the West Croydon one and that means the evening peak hour trains are listed below. 6 trains across 3 hours is pathetic!16:4017:1118:0818:5119:1119:40 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 So even though I no longer use southern, they're still going to manage to mess up my new commute on the West Croydon line. There's no limit to their uselessness. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Surely they have to be stripped of the franchise now. This is outrageous! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Wondering if James Barber or Renata are monitoring this thread. This is going to have serious consequences for ED families: getting to our jobs on time, picking up children from childcare... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wool-e Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Press release here from Labour (sorry if someone's posted already): http://press.labour.org.uk/post/146893885729/government-should-consider-stripping-govia Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguinpost Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I've posted a question to James on his local council thread.In the meantime, I think we should have some sort of protest! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollypops Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Surely this can't be right?? It's going to be madness trying to get to work. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I've emailed Harriet Harman and Sadiq Khan. I think this could all be potentially dangerous as well. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldilocks Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I should retract my previous post - I had thought that the national rail site would be updated, but now see that's not the case. Apologies for any false hope, this is ridiculous Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedges Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Southern have just confirmed to me on Twitter (after 6 messages asking for info) that from ED to LB there are no other services between 8.30 and 9.30. I start work in LB at 9.30 - I'm sure I'm not the only one - hard enough to get a seat on the 8.51 as it is. I don't understand how this is being allowed to happen. I have also emailed Harriet Harman, I hadn't thought about Sadiq Khan but will do so tomorrow - the more people that do, the better. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielson00 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Ditto, just emailed Harriet Harman and will email Sadiq too! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 goldilocks Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I should retract my previous post - I had thought> that the national rail site would be updated, but> now see that's not the case. Apologies for any> false hope, this is ridiculousSouthern mentioned that journey planners will have the new timetable on from tomorrow. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveler2 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Does anyone know if we have legal ground to sue Southern Rail because of this action? This will cause enormous stress and hardship to thousands of hardworking Residents of East Dulwich and other affected communities that rely on dependable rail services to/from London Bridge. Southern should not be allowed to get away with this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveler2 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 7.30 cancelled. Bastards! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguinpost Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I've also just emailed Helen Hayes and Sadiq Khan. My husband will do the same. As many people as possible need to do the same so that they hopefully have to take some sort of action. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Its outrageous. Could you possibly share Helen and Sadiq's email addresses please?Thanks Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielson00 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 [email protected][email protected]Contact the Mayor via: https://www.london.gov.uk/contact-us-form Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe_froeman Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On the Southern Twitter feed there is a suggestion that you can claim delay repay against the normal timetable so it might be worth putting in two claims every day. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/108840-trains-cancellations-latest/page/4/#findComment-1019784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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