The official 2010 World Cup thread

[Easties EL]

England should cruise past Algeria. If they don't, then **** em. All this bs hype evey time we play in the World Cup and Euro Championship. FFS, do I have to keep on seeing Ian Wright and Terry Veneabeles on every f***ing advert going.

[DJKillaQueen]

Yep, if we can't beat Algeria and Slovenia easily then we shouldn't be in the World Cup. Venables is just riding the money gravy train. Still haven't forgiven him for what he did to Crystal Palace.

[Keef]

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England should cruise past Algeria. If they don't, then **** em.

That's basically how I feel. This bunch of England players are hard to get behind and feel affection for, as we have with previous teams. Bunch of spoilt boys who believe their own hype.

I want them to kick on and win, but frankly, if they don't get out of the group, I'll not shed tears, hopefully it'll give a few of them a bit of a reality check.

Beckham was treated VERY badly after France '98, but in the long run, I think it actually did him good, and made him more respectful. Lets all hang some effigies of Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, and Lampard outside a few pubs!

[Jah Lush]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

. Venables is just riding the money gravy train. Still haven't

> forgiven him for what he did to Crystal Palace.

Ummm....No. I can't see it. They were more successful when he was at Palace than they've ever been since. Is that so bad? Or are you a Millwall fan?

[paragon]

very early days. I don't think you can tell much from that performance. As all the papers are saying Italy drew 1-1 with the US in WC 2006 group stages. We need to win our next two games to avoid the Germans.

I thought Heskey did quite well. Concern is Carragher, he looked unfit and out of his depth. Should have stuck to his guns and retired. Algeria and Slovenia looked dreadful in their game.

Do you not think when watching the games that no shots seem to be going on target from range. Most free-kicks have gone well over the ball does seem to slice or balloon very regularly. Maybe i am just looking out for it.

[Keef]

Carragher is too old for this, and is not what he used to be. I used to feel gutted that he couldn't hold down a place in the team, as 4/5 years ago, I thought there was a case for calling him the best centre back we had. Time has caught up with him though, and I don't really feel he should be there.

That said, we don't have a lot of choice anymore.

Thought Heskey done very well. Shame he missed a good chance, but he was not alone in that.

[Jah Lush]

Unforunately for Carragher his lack of pace was there for all to see. I'm gutted for Ledley King though.

[mockney piers]

And another snoozer's almost over. Dane's will be kicking themselves, they could have got a draw out of this one, the Dutch need to buck their ideas up if they're too challenge. There was an England like ennui about that performance.

ps wot Keef said about this crop of England players. I actually thought the last World Cup WAS their wake-up call, but that proved not to be.

Brasil tonight isn't it?

[kpc]

Brazil tomorrow night. This evening's entertainment provided by Italy and Paraguay.

[Easties EL]

Carragher should only play at centre back. He has no pace or the abilty to deal with quick wingers or forwards at this stage of his career.

He's a die hard kind of character, but I agree, his best days are behind him. Also the same for Rio and King. The end of the road for many of these England players. Bring on the U21's and Stuart Pearce. :-S

[DJKillaQueen]

Yeah Carragher, definitely off the pace and I question the commitment of any player that previously didn't want to play for England. Scholes has never changed his mind for example. Everyone knew King wouldn't last - he's been like that all season - why on earth we took him is beyond me.

Holland never live up to expectations - a bit like England in that respect. But the dutch keeper spilled the ball a bit like Green did at one point (wasn't totally behind the ball). I wonder if that ball does zip off as it slows in the air? Just struck me as odd because both were straight shots from distance giving the keepers plenty of time to set themselves.

Here come Japan and Cameroon .......

[matthew123]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> Yeah Carragher, definitely off the pace and I

> question the commitment of any player that

> previously didn't want to play for England.

> Scholes has never changed his mind for example.

Scholes: - "If they'd asked me earlier, I probably would have accepted." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8726935.stm

[Easties EL]

I respect Carraghers decision to quit international football. He was always been overlooked for England, especially when Terry and Rio were out, the managers replacement was always Woodgate and King who were always injured. Carragher, thought best to concentrate on his Club career and avoid the possibilty of getting injured as squad player. i.e Dean Ashton, career ended while on training for Englnad.

Carra also said, that he wouldn't rule out a return if England were desperate and short of players.

[matthew123]

I've not got a problem with Carragher wanting to play for his country but I just don't think he can be left exposed at the back with his chronic lack of mobility. The only way England are going to win World Cup is by playing very defensively, having everyone behind ball and using pace and break out skills of Rooney and Lennon.

[MrBen]

Just me or does anyone else really like the way South Korea play football? Nice technical passing and movement....

Anyways - tonight.....SAAAAAAMBA TIME!

Already anticipating the camera shot of two Brazilian beauties in bikinis playing a triangle.

[mockney piers]

Rob Green has trained today and in 3 hours he had 4,000 shots fired at him and did not concede a single goal.

Tomorrow, he and Heskey will train with the rest of the squad.

Boom boom.

[matthew123]

Just saw this on BBC site and I am stunned - New Zealand 1 v Slovakia 1! (full time score)

[kpc]

Could have been more of a shock as New Zealand had a similar chance to their equaliser just a few minutes earlier.

First part of today's treble complete (more than 1.5 goals in match).

[matthew123]

ITV get their act together and have terminated Robbie Earle's contract with immediate effect

Apparently his WC tickets for friends & family found their way into the hands of a third party

[kpc]

Allegedly they found their way to those jolly blonde ladies dressed in orange mini-skirts at the Netherlands v Denmark game. In which case we should be thanking Mr Earle for brightening our day a little.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I rather like the sweater the Brazilian Manager is wearing.

[Easties EL]

England = Kick & Rush.

[Brendan]

I've heard of Rush ( is he still playing at this soccer thing?). Who is Kick?

[citizenED]

That's the two-a-side team;

England First 11 =

Howler

Bluster

Harrass

Hoofit

Dicks

Thugger

Batty

Gettim

Rush

Blunder

Fowler

[david_carnell]

Don't forget the back-ups to Howler in goal - Droppit and Flapper.