Five Labour Pledges

[Brendan]

m7post Wrote:

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> Brendan and Bob -

> wotsisname & thingy?

You know, Wotsisname from Thingy. The yellow ones.

[m7post]

Hi Sean -

What I'm in general 'for' in this instance is that if I'm to vote it counts for something positive - as oppose to just a tactic to promote or prevent the least worst option within a system / status-quo that's floored and maintains it's existence as a paradox of a voting system that allow effective ongoing control by a minority - as in 'first past the post'.

And you Sean, - what is you are 'for'?

[Marmora Man]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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A very good point Marmora Man - but I'm not sure about the examples. I suspect they all had majority backing, but the majority was denied access to the levers of power

True - but somehow they persuaded the powers to overturn that denial of access - which I would say is a successful minority becoming a majority.

I'm not so sure what m7post is FOR - I have a fair idea of what he is against but I'm not seeing much in the way of "persuasion, good arguments, marketing, strong feeling"

Agree

[m7post]

Hi Brendan

- and what is you like about the yellow ones as opposed to the blue red and green ones?

[SeanMacGabhann]

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I'm not as despairing of the structures that are in place as you are m7 - so you could say I am FOR them

I would change some things - remove first past the post, continue to press for less deference to banking systems (which is not the same as me saying said systems are "evil") but then again I'm not the one who has started posting with some vehemence about the need for change. So the onus is not on ME to say what I'm for, I would say that was on you

[m7post]

Hi shaun - i thought is was a discussion forum -

you did enquire what is what i was 'for'

no one has said there's any onus on you for anything - but one would assume that if you're asking what some one is for - that you'd prepared to answer the / state the same, I asked because I was interested to know . . .

- it seams I've stumbled to a bit of a private club - chatting in public - and appear not to be too welcome - so i'll leave you chaps to it

best

Martin

[SeanMacGabhann]

Eh? Where are you extrapolating all that nonsense from. I countered your question and now you say it's no longer a discussion but a private club?

[*Bob*]

Sean, pass the cigar cutter, old chap.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Until you can spell my name properly dear * Robert * I shall have no option but to pretend you are not there

[Jah Lush]

What is what and what is the I for?

Brandy anyone?

[mockney piers]

Come on Martin, a bit of gumption by god!!

Oh, and a gin martini with olive whilst you're at it dear boy, there's a good chap. A guinea in it for you if you're quick.

[Marmora Man]

mockney piers Wrote:

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A guinea in it for you if you're quick. Inflation dammit - should be a penny.

[*Bob*]

Just realised I'm in the wrong club.

[Keef]

m7post Wrote:

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> Hi Sean -

>

> What I'm in general 'for' in this instance is that

> if I'm to vote it counts for something positive -

> as oppose to just a tactic to promote or prevent

> the least worst option within a system /

Surely this is positive in a negative way... No?

[Keef]

By the way, I'm basically with *bob* (who should NEVER again be called *b*) on this.

[Brendan]

m7post Wrote:

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> Hi Brendan

> - and what is you like about the yellow ones as

> opposed to the blue red and green ones?

Well from what I can guage at the moment, they are the only party with a clear agenda to properly regulate the parts of the economy which are dangerously out of control and to withdraw the invasive ?social regulation? that is imposed on normal people.

In the long run I feel they are the only ideological opposition to an ideologically vacuous status quo in politics.

Of the parties which aren?t (I suppose yet being a caveat) owned by their backers they actually posses the skills to run a government.

As an aside isn?t Tony Blaire piping up and calling David Cameron vacuous one of the finest examples of the pot calling the kettle black we?ve seen in a long time?

[Marmora Man]

If any of you go to see "Private LIves" you'll see Matthew Macfadyen playing Eliott Chase but looking just like David Cameron

[m7post]

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[ruffers]

> As an aside isn?t Tony Blaire piping up and

> calling David Cameron vacuous one of the finest

> examples of the pot calling the kettle black we?ve

> seen in a long time?

Doesn't make it any less true though..