Ted Max Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Yeah, OK, point taken, it's been big news. But the actual debate in mainstream media has been fairly crude.Here's yer man doing his stuff. Just for completion, like. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 David Davis is to be applauded. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 fish Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> David Davis is to be applauded.Care to elaborate? I'm not looking for a fight, just wondered why you thought that?As much as I agree with all the things he is saying I wonder how much of this is political ego. Not to mention the possible damage it could do to his own party.People tend not to like being made to vote unnecessarily - not to mention that public opinion polls agree show the majority of people agree with the Govt on this issue. He could be on the end of a bloody nose. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 In other news. We're all fucked!http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/drivers-urged-to-panic-200806111011/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 david_carnell Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> fish Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > David Davis is to be applauded.> > Care to elaborate? I'm not looking for a fight,> just wondered why you thought that?> > As much as I agree with all the things he is> saying I wonder how much of this is political ego.> Not to mention the possible damage it could do to> his own party.> > People tend not to like being made to vote> unnecessarily - not to mention that public opinion> polls agree show the majority of people agree with> the Govt on this issue. He could be on the end of> a bloody nose.For being a man of principle. No more, no less. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 That pesky oil businessSaw some "customers" being interviewed on the news tonight - basically any advice to not panic buy was met with short shrift from these fine citizens.. just remember folks, when food and oil get scarce, it's dog eat dog out there. Methinks the blitz spirit may not be seen again Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I can't believe there ever was a Blitz spirit when it come to that - it's just we view it with a rosy veneer of romance. For 'My mum used to get a few extra favours from the butcher' read what you will ;-) Rationing spawned it's own special time of criminal - the Spiv - and laid the foundations for a lawless East End populated and dominated by criminal gangs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-109937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Have the Irish done us a favour? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-110133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I sometimes wonder whether gormless ninnies would vote against democracy given half a chance.An Irish Independent survey suggested that 80% of those who voted against the treaty made their decision based on elements that weren't even in the bloody treaty. Prats.At some time, small town morons (that refers to a global not local market) are going to have to respect that the majority of resources that keep their tiny world turning over are generated from outside the nearest 25 miles. It would make arse-clamping sense that we retain democratic purview.Is it a lack of imagination? Do these bough-swingers think that mommy's going to make it good if they squeal when it's hurting?I've total respect for Marmora Man for well constructed arguments against the nanny state on another thread, I think I may have quoted him in admiration after a beer or two. However, it remains banal and witless for a community that's sucked 30bn from industrialised nations to kick-start a crippled nepotocracy [citation needed ;-)] to bite the hand that feeds them.Government is all about the redistribution of wealth, and if it's from the Badgers of The Apprentice to the pencil pushers of the Job Centre so be it. Better that than the tyranny of righteousness from double-glazing salespeople. I'd have sh*t squirting from a backed-up toilet whilst Lordship Lane was dominated by nasal backstabbers claiming it wasn't their fault.Pillocks.There, I've said it now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-110210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Totally agree, I was there the other day, looking at all the Sinn Fein 'Vote No' posters and listening to people saying how they have to vote no but nobody having the foggiest why. Actually spoke to a Fianna Fail councillor who knew his biscuits but couldn't persuade anyone of the sheer hypocrisy of their stance.Tossers (well, 53% of them are) have now consigned Europe to 3 or 4 more years of political soup, unwittingly continuing all that we don't like about Europe. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-110252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I really should add that a referendum here would have been every bit as nationalist and stupid and probably based on mythical straight bananas, no one has a monopoly on stupidity. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-110255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 Dear GodI can only echo the posts from Huguenot and Mockney Piers aboveWatching those idiots cheering and partying into the night made me ill - "we know f*** all!!! It's great!!!!"Most comment appears to agree that the reason most people voted no was because the treaty was incomprehensible to ordinary people - which may be true but I'm willing to bet the family house on the fact that when Ireland was on it's knees and aching to join the EU most people didn't understand THAT treaty either - and they have done pretty well out of it. The ungrateful bollixesStill - when the country freefalls into a full financial trough and has to go cap in hand, someone is going to enjoy making them squirm Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-110256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 Difficult to say for sure how factual the "apparently" in "apparently in the wake of threats by the US government," is but even if this is cooked up entirely at LloydsTSB HQ it still bothers me..How to show an undemocratic country how democracy works Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-110622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 'Complete anbd utter f*ckwits' springs to mind Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-111906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 This guy has a very good point:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/opinion/24godwin.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=peter+godwin&st=nyt&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-112257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Interesting report on the muslim backlash against Al Qaeda's concepts of jihadhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/special-report-is-al-qaida-in-p.htmls-850606.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-112611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7489457.stm You couldn't make it up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-114951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Is it usually very cloudy there? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-115130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 edited away to dedupe. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-115701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 If, that's IF, a thread was started and simply titled"Behold!"I would check it out.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-115705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 You know, it never occurred to me to start a new thread just for that. But maybe I will. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-115709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Those cookies are the best idea I?ve seen all day and I?ve just come from a very interesting seminar on new engineering innovations. I mean power generating sidewalks and self contained ecosystems within skyscrapers are all well and good but bacon cookies! Just the thought of them makes me want to clap my hands and do a little dance. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-115723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I was almost tempted to say Behold! The sheer drama!!But it is a news story.I think the SLP should snap this hack up immediately, he's their sort of man...or woman, didn't loko really.http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Quarter-Bridge-plan-unveiled-by.4251220.jpThe headline could so easily have read "Royal in Car that Stops" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-116042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozzyloz Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Sorry Piers but I can't say I find a planned roundabout development on the Isle of Man that dramatic. Were you thinking of something else, in a, roundabout sort of way? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-116044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozzyloz Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Ha! Just found the article you meant to link. It's pretty mind blowing. I probably wont recover from the shock before the weekend. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1054-i-heard-the-news-today-oh-boy/page/21/#findComment-116045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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