carlito Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Anyone know what's going on ? It looks like a demolition order on the outside but I presume there are plans for the place..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Southwark Council (in their wisdom) have approved it's conversion into flats. Very depressing. Details of planning application / decision, here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-304670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 What's the problem converting it into flats? Apparently it wasn't viable as a pub... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-304688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 The Land is for sale : Located on Oglander Road, this de-licensed pub has planning permission to be converted into seven substantial living spaces, comprising four two bedroomed flats, one three bedroomed flat, a one bedroomed flat and a studio.The lands is going for ?1,200,000 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-304704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Palaeologus Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Better some usable accomodation than a blot on the landscape, if there is no business for the pub anymore time to move on. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-304714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Great old thread, featuring some long lost favourite forumites, about the Oglander here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-304757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What's the problem converting it into flats?> Apparently it wasn't viable as a pub...We might have to accept harsh financial realities, but that doesn't mean we need to celebrate them. So many pubs in London are being lost and personally I find it sad. Often it is not that a pub is no longer viable, it's just that flats are more profitable. It is fairly easy to turn a quick buck, chopping up a historic pub for flats. But it's difficult to reverse the trend when markets change.Government is here to act in a regulatory role, taking into account the character and history of an area, the public interest (both now and in the future) and consider the 'bigger picture'. A property developer isn't (and shouldn't) be expected to think about any of this, which is why the Council's role is so important.Having said all this, I don't know this specific case intimately, so I guess I might be off the mark. I still find it sad though.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Communist! Don?t you know that government stands directly in the way of rampant personal gain at the expense of others. How can we expect to move forward if we don?t let those who are financially able to exploit the rest of society? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Yeah. Wot the Surrey Massive said. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Word! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 *flicks gin and tonic and golf club in 'that' way* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 How do you flick a golf club? And by club do you mean the membership as a body or the grounds? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 er...the stick thing Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Oh, that?s a ?bat? innit? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Or maybe a racket. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 The whole of Surrey is a racket. Fact. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Often it is not that a pub is no longer viable,> it's just that flats are more profitable. It is> fairly easy to turn a quick buck, chopping up a> historic pub for flats. But it's difficult to> reverse the trend when markets change.It has been shut for ages. When it was open, nobody went there. It's not a case of it being less profitable than flats, it's a case of it not making any money at all.Yes I guess it is sad that pubs are being lost, but I don't think it really applies round here. There is a good variety of pubs and bars within easy walking distance.If the government refused permission to turn it into flats, we'd just have an empty pub on the corner. I'd prefer the building to be put to good use and looked after. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-305176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Would be great to have a pub here now - would act as s stopping off point between ED and Bellenden Road. Problem is, the council always approve change of use based on what's viable at any given point in time - and so invariably amenity levels are frozen at the lowest point in an area's economic cycle. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-793960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-793961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 rah -a re you bit of an alcoholic, if you need a sharpner between Bellenden and SE22? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-793993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1964 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> rah -a re you bit of an alcoholic, if you need a> sharpner between Bellenden and SE22?The Gowlett can provide that, if you take a bit of a roundabout route. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-794011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopamine1979 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Holy thread resurrection! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-794045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> rah -a re you bit of an alcoholic, if you need a> sharpner between Bellenden and SE22?I prefer 'a drinking enthusiast' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/10335-oglander-pub/#findComment-794133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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