Youths selling overpriced dishcloths door-to-door

[Sue]

Good for you strangemartin.

[Milo]

Brilliant :)

[Michael Palaeologus]

Yes indeed - well done Strangemartin. Bullying of all sorts needs to be challenged.

[thexwinglessxbird]

Yeah you tell it as it is, Martin =P

[Sue]

Why the sticking out tongue, wingless bird with x s?

ETA: Or have I misinterpreted your symbols?

[Scylla100]

Hey they're baaaaaaaack.

9:00PM seems to be the time they like to knock on the door.

He was intimidating and I needed to repeat 'no, no, no' and close the door on him. He was trying to say nice things but his actions amounted to harassment. If everybody closed the door on these guys and said 'no' then they wouldn't come round - but it can be really hard to do. I used to do cold calling door to door collecting for a charity so I know all the tricks, but these guys aren't doing tricky sales techniques, they're going right to intimidation.

Anybody else have 'em round this evening?

Scylla

Scylla

[Ondine]

I had nice young woman at about 5pm with the usual script but this time the purpose was to save the "youth centre". I told her I don't buy off them any more as I'm not sure it's genuine. She said lots of people are saying that now and went away without arguing

[lilolil]

Scylla... He was round here earlier (Hindmans).

Stroppy son opened the door to him and he headed off mumbling. Son said he didnt know what he said!!!

Maybe he thought better of it!!!

[HonaloochieB]

strangemartin Wrote:

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> HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> -----

> > strangemartin Wrote:

> >

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> > > I had one of these round when I lived on

> > Landcroft

> > > Road last year. He was persistent, in the end

> I

> > > had to close the door in his face, and he

> > kicked

> > > something outside and shouted "you queer, you

> > > f***ing poof!". So I opened it and challenged

> > him,

> > > and got into a big argument which involved

> him

> > > telling me "it's not Adam and Steve, it's

> Adam

> > and

> > > Eve", which is such a classic retro bit of

> > > homophobic abuse I almost invited him to an

> 80s

> > > theme party.

> > >

> > > He also said "I don't like you bringing that

> > s**t

> > > around me" to which I replied "yeah, but YOU

> > were

> > > the one knocking on MY door", and he started

> > > getting aggressive and only backed down when

> my

> > > (somewhat larger) flatmate appeared at the

> door

> > to

> > > see what all the shouting was about.

> > >

> > > I called the police and they apparently

> > informed

> > > the community wardens and asked neighbours,

> but

> > > nothing ever came of it.

> >

> > Not sure about anyone else, but this to me

> seems

> > the least truthful post since the one of those

> > ones I put on the song game thread.

> > If it happened, it's been described in the

> > schumckiest possible way.

> > If, as I believe it's an invention then it's as

> > dopey and dreary an invention that ever there

> > was.

> > No offence.

> > Actually, balls to that, every offence

> possible.

> > Huh.

>

> Interesting, I thought I'd make a little

> contribution to this forum as a relevant incident

> had happened. A few weeks later, I come back to

> find this little bit of unpleasantness.

>

> Well it happened. Not sure what was implausible,

> though I probably felt a lot more fearful and came

> across less confidently than the telling implies.

> As someone later said, I was just trying to

> describe the incident with a little levity. But

> again, I'd be interested to know which part of it

> you think didn't happen, or what leads you to

> believe the entire incident is fictional.

>

> The incident was dealt with by Catherine Pearson,

> TDC 220426 at Walworth Police Station, who sent me

> a statement to fill out. There's probably a crime

> number but I don't have that to hand. But put it

> this way, if the incident didn't happen, then I

> told an awful lot of lies to at least 2 police

> officers and made a untruthful witness statement.

>

> I might just gently make the final observation

> that people who post in such a confrontational way

> on internet forums often do so because of their

> inability to stand up to people in real life. The

> fact you've made 7,000 posts in this forum alone

> can only add to this impression. However, I could

> be wrong, and if you're man enough you can come

> round to my flat (pm me for my contact details),

> tell me again why you think I'm a liar, and then

> I'll show you the emails from the police (and if

> it didn't get lost/binned in my last flat move,

> any documentation I can find). Deal?

I've just spotted this for the first time since my post.

I would like to apologise without reservation to StrangeMartin for a post that was personally offensive and generally obnoxious.

Strangemartin I hope you're able to accept.

Regards

[strangemartin]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> strangemartin Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > HonaloochieB Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > strangemartin Wrote:

> > >

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> >

> > > -----

> > > > I had one of these round when I lived on

> > > Landcroft

> > > > Road last year. He was persistent, in the

> end

> > I

> > > > had to close the door in his face, and he

> > > kicked

> > > > something outside and shouted "you queer,

> you

> > > > f***ing poof!". So I opened it and

> challenged

> > > him,

> > > > and got into a big argument which involved

> > him

> > > > telling me "it's not Adam and Steve, it's

> > Adam

> > > and

> > > > Eve", which is such a classic retro bit of

> > > > homophobic abuse I almost invited him to an

> > 80s

> > > > theme party.

> > > >

> > > > He also said "I don't like you bringing

> that

> > > s**t

> > > > around me" to which I replied "yeah, but

> YOU

> > > were

> > > > the one knocking on MY door", and he

> started

> > > > getting aggressive and only backed down

> when

> > my

> > > > (somewhat larger) flatmate appeared at the

> > door

> > > to

> > > > see what all the shouting was about.

> > > >

> > > > I called the police and they apparently

> > > informed

> > > > the community wardens and asked neighbours,

> > but

> > > > nothing ever came of it.

> > >

> > > Not sure about anyone else, but this to me

> > seems

> > > the least truthful post since the one of

> those

> > > ones I put on the song game thread.

> > > If it happened, it's been described in the

> > > schumckiest possible way.

> > > If, as I believe it's an invention then it's

> as

> > > dopey and dreary an invention that ever there

> > > was.

> > > No offence.

> > > Actually, balls to that, every offence

> > possible.

> > > Huh.

> >

> > Interesting, I thought I'd make a little

> > contribution to this forum as a relevant

> incident

> > had happened. A few weeks later, I come back to

> > find this little bit of unpleasantness.

> >

> > Well it happened. Not sure what was

> implausible,

> > though I probably felt a lot more fearful and

> came

> > across less confidently than the telling

> implies.

> > As someone later said, I was just trying to

> > describe the incident with a little levity. But

> > again, I'd be interested to know which part of

> it

> > you think didn't happen, or what leads you to

> > believe the entire incident is fictional.

> >

> > The incident was dealt with by Catherine

> Pearson,

> > TDC 220426 at Walworth Police Station, who sent

> me

> > a statement to fill out. There's probably a

> crime

> > number but I don't have that to hand. But put

> it

> > this way, if the incident didn't happen, then I

> > told an awful lot of lies to at least 2 police

> > officers and made a untruthful witness

> statement.

> >

> > I might just gently make the final observation

> > that people who post in such a confrontational

> way

> > on internet forums often do so because of their

> > inability to stand up to people in real life.

> The

> > fact you've made 7,000 posts in this forum

> alone

> > can only add to this impression. However, I

> could

> > be wrong, and if you're man enough you can come

> > round to my flat (pm me for my contact

> details),

> > tell me again why you think I'm a liar, and

> then

> > I'll show you the emails from the police (and

> if

> > it didn't get lost/binned in my last flat move,

> > any documentation I can find). Deal?

>

> I've just spotted this for the first time since my

> post.

>

> I would like to apologise without reservation to

> StrangeMartin for a post that was personally

> offensive and generally obnoxious.

> Strangemartin I hope you're able to accept.

>

> Regards

I've just exchanged private messages with HonaloochieB and happily accepted his apology. All friends again!

Hope everyone gets a nice warm glow from this, in time for the weekend.

[edcam]

Hats off to HB for the apology. Moral of story - don't post crap in the first place.

[ayresc]

They came round last night at 9pm at the bottom of Barry Road, I said no politley. I felt harsh as I'm all for young poeple helping out charities but I wouldnt trust anyone as far as I could throw them on door to door tactics, especially in london!

I felt as a guy he wasn't going to hassle me but I was polite nonetheless, then felt harsh and donated ?5 online to a homeless charity. They get your guilt either way!

[Scylla100]

@ayresc

I think your idea of giving to an on line charity is great! Imagine if every time someone obnoxious knocked on your door you gave money to worthy-legit-registered-with-the-charity-commission cause? With all the gosh darned Jehovah's witnesses and people trying to get us to switch my power company knocking on our doors around here we could raise money for a brand new children's hospital in East Dulwich or something equally as worthwhile no doubt. Next time the kids with the dishcloths come round I'll give a donation to a nice appropriate youth charity who I'm sure will put the donation to good use.

[amyw]

ooh - that reminds me - money saving expert site has a print-out-yourself thing to put on your door that is 'no cold callers' - the gas and electric companies have signed up to it. wont be any help with dishcloth sellers. but hopefully a bit relevant.

[DJKillaQueen]

Just close the door - it's simple. These guys know they are preying on your good manners to not tell then F* off. Besides most genuine charities just ask for donations or have fund raising events. They don't knock on your door trying to sell you something - and if they do, they'll have ID cards and other stuff to show they are a genuine representative of that charity. Common sense guys - it's a scam - just close your door, and if they get abusive or damage your property, call the police.

[cmck83]

I had one around the other day. He said they were raising money for something to do with kids, and I said I already do enough for kids, being a teacher. He didn't argue with that one, just said goodbye. Have I gotten off lightly? :D

[kford]

They're here again - more polite, but couldn't contain his contempt when I said 'sorry, I'm not interested' (with a smile)

[chantelle]

someone just round here ... wasn't rude though as far as i could tell ( hubby handled ). It's pretty late at night though - I wouldn't have answered the door myself.