CPR Dave

I've shared this with everyone I know in the CPZ area who self-identifies as an inhabitant.

There is also a statutory requirement for proper consultation before a council implements restrictions on parking - compliance with which looks very dubious in this instance. The PRO-cpz lot have been talking a load of old bollocks too which further muddies the debate. That's how it works now though. Twist the truth and gaslight the electorate. For example, the council would be acting unlawfully if it imposed any CPZs in contravention of the The Local Authorities' Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996 regardless of whether or not they had the blessing of Rofflick, Sadiq Khan And Southwarks cyclists.

Good idea Rockets - that way the percentages for any particular option will look lower.

They were supposed to create green spaces and "reclaim" their own streets from themselves with the LTNs. It's not a new idea and they have a track record of failure already. Look at the appalling state those spaces are in now, gathering detritus around the rotting wooden structures that were seemingly dumped and abandoned. You can have a similar wreck on your on street too now for only £2/300 a year per household.

Your local councillors are here They are all labour and will all be backing this to the hilt. https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?bcr=1

The thing is, they are not broke when it comes to roads. The last data published that I can find on their website showed the profits from parking going up every year by about £1m a year. 4/5 years ago the surplus was in excess of £7m. It's probably more like £12m a year now. That money has to be put back into roads. They can't use it anywhere else.

He's clearly riding two horses: Still the one where he said he would only put CPZs in where residents asked for them (when his own Goose Green residents also turned up to meetings with tempers running high with an overwhelming turnout) but also ; The new one where we have to put in CPZs regardless of resident consent for the sake of equity exclusively amongst residents of Southwark. I guess he's thinking his clever trick will be to make Goose Green an island of free parking that is swamped with cars from Dulwich Hill and Dulwich Village parking on our streets so that he has the last laugh when the 68% go begging to him on their knees asking for a CPZ here, and he can pretend he never reneged on his original promise.

Agreed Richard. Good work, thank you.

Good idea Richard. The more coordinated and momentous the opposition, the more chance it will have of succeeding. Might be worth getting in touch with One Dulwich too to see if they have any pointers and pitfalls to avoid.

Maldives and Mauritius are better fir winter sun.

I'm not surprised. They are a terrible eyesore. The state of the parklets near East Dulwich Station is appalling. It looks like a slum round there.

Julian I think you need to get some of those other petitions cancelled and have just the best one that everyone signs. You need to get 500+ signatories to have any impact so 4 petitions with 200 signatories each is hopeless.

I wouldn't make any such assumptions with this council.

It's such a bum argument. Where is the equality for people in Southwark paying for parking when, two hours a day aside, there is no charge at all for residents from outside the Borough. And no charge whatsoever if they just drive through polluting our streets, using our roads and they don't stop amd park. Theres no equity in that.

I just feel like they've been lying about this for years. They always intended to do it, with or without public support

Utter nonsense as it goes. Just like everything else Malumbu trolls on about on here. Would be better if they stuck to their own local forum where they live, although unfortunately there are no LTNs, CPZs, or 20 mph speed limits in Bromley.

I think this is a done deal tbh, It's a shame because it will push up house prices even more and squeeze poor people out of the area, further consolidating East Dulwich as an enclave for the rich upper classes. Hope for the sake of the people behind this policy that those kind of residents believe in the "equality" mission and keep on voting Labour.,

They used to publish an annual parking monitoring report. They seem to have stopped that in 2019, presumably because they were embarrassed about how much net profit they were milking from residents. This is the last published data showing the surplus made from parking charges in the five years to 2018/19: Financial Year: 2014/15 2015/16 2016/17 2017/18 2018/19 Surplus: £5,152,000 £6,015,000 £6,796,000 £6,113,000 £7,025,000 https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/11828/Annual-Report-on-Parking-and-funding-2018-19-.pdf They said they were going to continue publishing parking data "in future Movement Plan Annual Monitoring Reports from 2019/20. This document will cover parking and funding data during the transition year" but I can't find those anywhere. In fact they haven't even been able to publish audited accounts since 2019/20. They have published three sets of unaudited annual accounts since then. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/key-documents/statement-of-accounts

They are probably just trying to save the environment., 20mph creates more emissions than 30 mph and is killing people and their lungs,

None of that is relevant to allowing people to keep cars as long as they pay more tax for paving slabs and benches every 110m Malumbum. This policy is not about saving the planet or even lowering emissions. It's about allowing people to carry on driving cars but picking their pockets at the same time. Labour have abandoned their Green New Deal, they don't even pretend to care about "tree huggers" or the climate anymore. They just want to tax people they have decided are rich.

6m of double yellow lines to move one car back a bit. The person who complained about this hampering their private car park seems very selfish and not good at driving. https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s115518/Appendix 15 Crystal Palace Road.pdf

That's your claim, not theirs. Their claim is that this about social justice. Nothing to do with "the largest crisis humanity has ever faced" (obscene language by the way in context of certain appalling genocides, some of which the left like to wash over, of course). There's evidence on another thread that this only about making people people pay more money to use the roads for car storage.

might well do so next time out. By then there will a right/centrist labour government failing spectacularly in a recession and a labour council who've gone round picking the pockets of all their constituents thinking they could get away with anything in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Seems ripe pickings to me. Not sure the incumbents have thought that far ahead.

It's unbelievably slippery.

They won't worry about though because self defeating morons keep voting them back in!