Concerned2021

sandyman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lack of clarity/transparency in the process is > part of the problem. > > I received a penalty in Lewisham where there was a > similar scheme to Dulwich Village. I appealed > immediately but didn't hear anything back so after > two weeks I paid the fine to avoid it doubling on > the basis that it would be refunded if my appeal > was upheld. Instead I received a letter saying > that as I had paid the fine the case was closed. > > The scheme in Lewisham, by the way, has now been > partly scrapped. > > > rjsmall Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I think it varies. Where I have had cause to > > challenge a PCN in the past the 14 day period > for > > early payment was paused. If your informal > > challenge is rejected by the council and you > > decide to take it to the independent appeals > body > > then you have to pay the full amount if they > don't > > find in your favour. Lewisham are now trying to reinstate the original road closures but under the guise of safer school streets. However no actual school streets closed - just a way of getting quiet streets back for the nimbys that live their with their rows of cars...

I found the minutes for the Lewisham Healthy Streets schemes. Unbelievable that a scheme that has such a massive impact on our lives and infrastructure was decided by a few cyclists and council officials. The Feb minutes indicate that the consultation in Lewisham will only include those inside the LTN. Basically it?s a stitch up. https://lewishamcyclists.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Meeting-Record-20210217.pdf

Doubt it. I have a mini. I don?t know anyone with an SUV - not very economical, too big and difficult to park. Possibly those that live in an LTN, work from home and haven?t had to leave their house for a week since they have home deliveries. Maybe fancy a run out to the garden centre or for a walk in the countryside....?

Thank you. I?ve raised this point before. Did the pandemic not reveal how much we rely on our key staff? It was already difficult to recruit and retain staff within the NHS and these policies will bring us to our knees. The current closures are unjust and damaging. Roads need to be reopened as a matter of urgency and alternatives considered that are fair to all and do not jeopardise our key services or economy. Just a few thoughts about alternatives. I?m prepared to be shouted down. 1. London wide CpZ which are fairly priced and linked to council tax banding. All London residents to be given a particular number of permits per week which can be used anywhere e.g. 2 per week. These can be used for journeys within London. Any unused permits can be cashed in at the end of the year creating an incentive to use permits for the most essential journeys or not use a car at all if there is another choice. They will also promote car sharing. Key staff who need their car for work purposes to be given permits during working hours only. Additional permits and exemptions for informal carers and those with disabilities, for those with children under 5 etc. 2. Charges to drive in and out of London again with options for exemptions for those that need to do so for essential work or carer roles or who live within a certain distance from the boundaries. 3. Continue to consider cycle paths in key places. 4. Improved public transport which should be quicker due to less cars on the road. 5. If LTN?s are considered thus should be done by a neutral panel to ensure that councillors or those with power do not influence decisions. These should only made permanent if they can show a 50 per cent reduction in car ownersship during the trial period. 6. Ban Amazon Prime - far too many delivery vans, particularly on main roads and bus routes. As I say i?m prepared to be shouted down but we need to think about measures that reduce car use on ALL roads and which consider need to drive. LTN?s are wrong and damaging on so many levels.

I work for the NHS and have to drive to carry bulky equipment. I will certainly be looking to leave London as soon as my children finish school. Driving and managing the impacts of this is becoming increasingly stressful.

I was quite happy letting my primary school children walk to school alone from year 5. Sadly my road is taking more traffic due to closed roads and has become dangerous. The council have done nothing to enforce speed limits and I now worry for their safety and often walk them across despite now being at secondary school. We often have to wait 5 minutes for a safe gap to cross. This should be the priority for councils. Incidentally this is a road with a school road off it and multiple primary schools so kids crossing both ways.

At last. Something that gave me hope that people may start to listen

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/550887

Sorry forgot to add during peak times only..

Alternatively open up the closed roads and restrict traffic on bus roads? This is likely to have a much greater affect on use of public transport if the journey is quicker by bus than car.

My road has suffered from a huge increase in traffic which is likely to get worse if more roads are closed. Since the council only appear to be monitoring traffic in LTN?s, I?m considering purchasing one of these: https://shapebetterstreets.org/2021/02/02/telraam-traffic-counters-coming-to-crystal-palace/

I agree with all the posts regarding traffic displacement and increased pollution on boundary roads. I also have concerns about impact on key services. Staff who need to drive for their job in the public sector - social care and NHS have been silenced in this debate since concerns about impact have to be escalated through senior managers and it is sensitive to comment on social media on a professional level. The impact has been huge and is likely to get worse as the programme is further rolled out throughout London. I would envisage that many key staff will be looking to move out of London on the back of this since chronic stress caused by driving in traffic jams against time deadlines is not sustainable.