ken78

This might surprise you, Ken, but politicians don't get houses for cheap or free because they're lucky. They get them because they've done someone a favour. A favour big enough that it has to be paid for, but dodgy enough that it can't be officially paid for. https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/27/gerb-vice-president-quits-bulgaria-parliament-over-property-scandal/ Still, don't worry, I'm sure nothing like that could ever happen in the UK. https://www.transparency.org.uk/publications/corruption-on-your-doorstep As I said YOU KNOW THIS AS A FACT ??? or just another guess how do you know this and the police don't...maybe you should get a job as a detective....just a thought....and talk about hang a man with out any evidence just guessing you KNOW My my my how jealous the dulwich bods are why if you boys don't want the former prime minister to move in ...easy MOVE as you seem to think dulwich now is going down hill ...First the pound shop now boris what next soup kitchen or a lidl or aild???

This might surprise you, Ken, but politicians don't get houses for cheap or free because they're lucky. They get them because they've done someone a favour. A favour big enough that it has to be paid for, but dodgy enough that it can't be officially paid for. https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/27/gerb-vice-president-quits-bulgaria-parliament-over-property-scandal/ Still, don't worry, I'm sure nothing like that could ever happen in the UK. https://www.transparency.org.uk/publications/corruption-on-your-doorstep As I said YOU KNOW THIS AS A FACT ??? or just another guess how do you know this and the police don't...maybe you should get a job as a detective....just a thought....and talk about hang a man with out any evidence just guessing you KNOW

Before he entered No.10, he was camped out at Carrie's flat in Camberwell because he'd lost everything in his latest divorce. In No.10, he shook the tree among donors in an opaque scheme to decorate his residence. If after No.10 he was plonking down cash to buy multimillion pound properties when his legitimate earnings could not have been the source of those funds, that would be very suspicious. There are reports that he has received £5 million since leaving No 10 seven months ago https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/08/boris-johnson-advance-payment-speeches And if he did get 5 million so what ANOTHER ONE WHO SEEMS TO BE OBSESSED with this man why ???

that's a bit nosy (I’d like to know if he paid cash for it) so what if he did ? He won't have paid a penny for it. There'll be some billionaire Brexit backer / Tory donor / media mogul who has bought it as a "gift" for him. Well it's useful to know where the paparazzi are going to be camped out! And you KNOW THAT for a fact HE NEVER PAID FOR IT ? you need to be careful what you THINK AND WHAT YOU SAY its not good ... BUT MAYBE YOU THINK IT IS or are you a little bit jealous he's got a house in the posh dulwich and as you say for FREE... I say good luck to any one who gets a house for free ...as you can see I AM NOT A JEALOUS PERSON unlike some ??

that's a bit nosy (I’d like to know if he paid cash for it) so what if he did ? do you tell people what you pay for

well said...........and so what if he lives in dulwich are the people of dulwich better then others who don't live in dulwich ?? i would like to know as the dulwich people seem to know

hope this helps https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&q=Old+photos+of+dulwich&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=xggMn4DMzX6GJM%252C8i9kBc0aCkpQeM%252C_%253Bj1OI-TE9BpcxAM%252CmOBo3W1B3SFBXM%252C_%253BMNlM9eCk3XVA_M%252CdF23hJDqA2BRUM%252C_%253B5qyJDymMdfky1M%252C2b6WqUwS_Af-AM%252C_%253B4neYRiuSvNDscM%252C8i9kBc0aCkpQeM%252C_%253BAeUPfopfTerILM%252CHr8XuPDfT8i3EM%252C_%253Bb-kB3dV1mF0iHM%252CCfQfMNgWy08EnM%252C_%253BNJgWsrL73dFMAM%252Cn3m1_heMQrN-uM%252C_%253Br64FrjX7a9D1KM%252CQrrF6D5hl5QvpM%252C_%253BxgCNOgGLHfBWQM%252CbzqXfkd2wL1-jM%252C_%253BO68YhTKiYvlycM%252CpMVnT3ICKyWbrM%252C_%253BdrUo0uIRB1K6JM%252Cpie7qet1L9PYKM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kTSM5LhFTQm7mYSQVeKjLXYmNv2Eg&ved=2ahUKEwimiInJxIr-AhXlolwKHUPzCyUQ7Al6BAgTEFM&biw=1536&bih=754&dpr=1.25

Just got home from the Dr he said I will live long and prosper..what ever that means never gave me any pills

Who ??

Free speech eh? ok i understand

Well I can't keep this up as I have a bad bout of the Klingons

And your point ,this is about the pound shop and as some say it will kill off other shops like Farmers so your point is ?? Jeez, you're about as blunt as a pencil with no lead! Part of the conversation was around ownership "Oh, and not all properties in SE22 are owned (or ever were owned) by Dulwich Estates." Just pointing out the correctness. correctness.. the post WAS about the pound shop opening read the first post then say Jeez...

Looks like your just trying to justify some think ,I don't know what ? Nothing at all, they are as guilty as the rest for pushing up rent. The reason Platform 1 and others before them disappeared And your point ,this is about the pound shop and as some say it will kill off other shops like Farmers so your point is ??

Some one had to PICard UP on that one 😆 Very enterprising of you

The point I was trying to make is that, unless others know for certain, it may well be that Farmer's either owns their shop, or has it on a long and favourable lease. Business rentals are expensive, and not in the main getting cheaper, but it would be wrong to assume that all business properties are rented (or leased). Where they are not, then as a business on-cost the cost of ownership is different - there is still a cost of capital but it is made up of costs of upkeep (that would normally be the owner's responsibility) and the opportunity cost of not realising the capital value of the property. That opportunity cost is why firms sometimes operate sale and lease back options. Oh, and not all properties in SE22 are owned (or ever were owned) by Dulwich Estates. Business rates will still be an issue, as will increasing costs of e.g. power - although Farmer's (unlike say a restaurant with cooking, heating and refrigeration costs) will have more limited power costs - mainly lighting, with limited (I'm guessing) expenditure on heating. Cost models for shops such as Farmer's are very different from restaurants (and, in response to an earlier post, although the 'mark-up' of charges for food is very much higher than for the food's raw ingredients in restaurants the costs of producing prepared food, including storage and so on is significant over and above the raw ingredient cost). Where Farmer's costs are probably significant is in the cost of storing (shelving costs) their very wide range of products - which is also their USP. Some items will hang about in the shop for some time before their price is realised. Skill in stocking and ordering will be a key quality here, especially as, I'm guessing, unlike Poundland they won't have access to sophisticated EPOS systems and ordering algorithms to help them. Some of the properties are owned by the family that owns SMBS. Looks like your just trying to justify some think ,I don't know what ?

The point I was trying to make is that, unless others know for certain, it may well be that Farmer's either owns their shop, or has it on a long and favourable lease. Business rentals are expensive, and not in the main getting cheaper, but it would be wrong to assume that all business properties are rented (or leased). Where they are not, then as a business on-cost the cost of ownership is different - there is still a cost of capital but it is made up of costs of upkeep (that would normally be the owner's responsibility) and the opportunity cost of not realising the capital value of the property. That opportunity cost is why firms sometimes operate sale and lease back options. Oh, and not all properties in SE22 are owned (or ever were owned) by Dulwich Estates. Business rates will still be an issue, as will increasing costs of e.g. power - although Farmer's (unlike say a restaurant with cooking, heating and refrigeration costs) will have more limited power costs - mainly lighting, with limited (I'm guessing) expenditure on heating. Cost models for shops such as Farmer's are very different from restaurants (and, in response to an earlier post, although the 'mark-up' of charges for food is very much higher than for the food's raw ingredients in restaurants the costs of producing prepared food, including storage and so on is significant over and above the raw ingredient cost). Where Farmer's costs are probably significant is in the cost of storing (shelving costs) their very wide range of products - which is also their USP. Some items will hang about in the shop for some time before their price is realised. Skill in stocking and ordering will be a key quality here, especially as, I'm guessing, unlike Poundland they won't have access to sophisticated EPOS systems and ordering algorithms to help them. As I have worked in a lot of different retail some like Farmers price the goods at double + vat . Pet shops are a bit more and food can be up to 70% mark up just look at a fry up at £7 ...and price up the ingredients and you will see, a good cafe like the dulwich one has been going for years ans still will . You only have to.see the shops that are still trading ,ie william rose butchers working on about 75% mark up

And spock??

You are making the assumption (unless you know) that Farmer's is a tenant or leaseholder. As they have been in place for so long it is not impossible that they own the property. In which case their big fixed overhead will be just business8 rates rather than rates and rent. They will still need to price so as to cover fixed and variable costs together with an 'allowance' for profits. Even if they are a leaseholder the terms and length of their lease may be such that 'current' levels of leaseholder costs are not relevant to their particular cost model. Just business rates and utility bills is that all , how many business have gone bang over that come on look at every ones bills don't take a lot to work out

Thanks I will look into all of them

Do you not think that some shops on the lane have to make so much just to pay the rent, I think that's why we have so many food outlets as the profit is very high and the rent is no problem so when you see a shop like Farmers it makes you think about the mark up they have

don't worry spock and kirk will sort it out Which ones Quinto and Pine Or Nimoy and Shatner ? Come on only one

Oh I do have to laugh. The usual suspects goading left right and centre, then choosing to play the ‘shut down’ Louisa’ card when the argument goes against them. The above quoted forum members are a good summary of what is wrong with society today. ‘We don’t agree with you so we will shut your opinions down to make ourselves feel good’. Yawn. I barely use the forum, I really don’t give a toss if I’m “relegated to the lounge”. Bring it on! Haha. Losers. Louisa. Nah. We're just all bored of your boring twuntiness. And your dishonesty about being eallowed back in if you behaved. Despite your protestations to the contrary; a class warrior you ain't. Sounds like you feel threatened by Louisa and I don't know why she's only saying how she thinks it is

If they that great they will have no problems This is quite a naïve / idealistic view of contemporary capitalism imo. Chains can afford to drop prices short term, put independents under, and then raise them again, or use loss leaders or BOGOFF offers to entice shoppers. All of these tactics may lead to success, without necessarily translating into better overall value or service. Big marketing budgets (and subsequent brand recognition) often means people will favour places like Poundland regardless of how 'good' they actually are. No one makes you go in the pound shop so we will see only time will tell

don't worry spock and kirk will sort it out

take it back