Greegz

exit the instigator

sometimes think mobiles are the best and worse things ever invented invented. great for an emergency but so easily misinterperated

Driving at night in the rain on a country road listening to the stone roses or ub40

People who take 10 text messages to say what they could have in 1 - irritating, pointless, boring and time consuming.

annaj, its not that i'm insisting on an opinion as you put it, i just feel that evidence has been presented, largely because of this case, that suggests that the system especially regarding the rules of confidentiality need to change. If every elderly or terminal patient had to wait years for investigations to be carried out regarding abuse or neglect, how many do you think will or do currently survive until the investigation has been completed? It's ok to post the guidlines on confidentiality etc as antijen has done also but to me it just re-iterates and highlights the current public and professional frustration and confusion relating to this. If you read the whole documents, they are very contradictory. Also, you stated that you are sticking to the GMC because thats all you know but this individual issue IS about a nurse and nursing ethics and is backed by nursing unions. Information is publically avialable. The point I was making was that it would maybe be better if you did have a fuller understanding of the individual case aswell as the wider national problem before opening up a debate about a nurse and nursing ethics when you have stated you know nothing about it. Lets not forget the reason for the thread being posted to begin with.

As a matter of fact we are not posting from the same computer but from a shared internet connection (lptops are very mobile), does that mean that my opinions are any less valid than antijens because we know each other and share some of the same opinions?

As the song goes "IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII got no strings to hold me down...." Nuff said there! Having a similar opinion to someone does not have to have a genetic link, Doctor. I have been following the case closely and believe there has been a gross miscarriage of justice, and this is not my first link in support of this nurse, just the first on this site. I posted here because the debate appears diverse and interesting, and antijen has raised an interesting disccussion and many others have made some valid points. Obviously you do not care one way or the other

It appauls me to read how oppinionated people can be about a topic when, self admittedly (annaj), they dont know all the facts and have chosen to remain ignorant about it even though the the relevant links and information have been posted in the forum so that they can learn about it and make an INFORMED opinion. It seems to me that if you dont know about the case, you shouldnt comment. As far as I can see, this thread was originally posted to request support for an individual nurse and give everyone the information they need to make an informed opinion. By not doing this and commenting anyway is tantamount to inciting an argument. Of course confidentiality should be upheld whenever possible but in reality, everyone knows it isnt always possible. It should be noted that this petition has the full backing of the Royal College of Nursing, the largest Nursing Union in the UK, it is recognised nationally that a change is needed so signing a petition can hold a lot of weight. Sherwick seems to be sensible stating "I think antijen brought up Nuremburg not because there was a similar case of confidentiality breaching there, but because of the 'we were only obeying orders' claims made there. I.e. in this case, the nurse was struck off for 'not following due process, which is there for a reason'. The following comments made by bignumber5 seem to be so far removed from reality, that its quite worrying, and downright offensive. If you are calling the current problems in the NHS 'Tripe', have you been walking around with your eyes closed? At least antijen has researched the topic before posting and has provided evidence to back up what she is sayin and not just making wild accusations. Good on you antijen, I have signed the petition and will pass it on to my friends. Dont listen to the ignorance of uninfomed people. Having a qualfication dosent automatically instill morals and good ethics in people. You have to live with you own conscience at the end of the day.