lol, thanks Andystar, after getting the bad news from the mechanic this morning that has cheered me up no end, I'm still laughing :) .....and no, it wasn't about the horn in my car, that still works.....I think..... *looks into empty wallet with concern* Anyways I should say hi to everyone here, my wife and I moved to ED about 3 months ago and are loving it here (you even have decent weather here :) We have been lurking around the forum a bit but thought it was high time we actually started taking part