spartanarmy

you obviously failed to take notice of the quote at the top of my initial post from genwilliams "Poverty and underprivilege has always resulted in violent unrest." Where was the violent unrest in the 30s. Cable street was something very different. Poverty does not always result in violent unrest. The anecdote is a good one because the idiots are not poor nor underpriveledged. They are not starving, they are not malnurished, they have access to excellent free healthcare and decent education, they have roofs over their heads as well as the odd bit of bling and a blackberry mobile phone. The only poverty they suffer is poor parenting and poor discipline. You aint going to solve the bad parenting so the discipline has to come from somewhere else. For years the the message the idiots have been dealt is that they are the victims, they are downtroden and they can wonder the streets and get away with murder. Because it has built up for such a long time it needs to be quashed dramatically so that at the very least the new breed will be brought up with a different message.

What about the 30's? These idiots dont look that poor to me. They have free education, a roof over their heads, more money thrown at them than any youths in the history of our contry (EMA, free oyster cards being the start) and I guess they havnt walked 5 days for water unless all the shops are closed round their way (I wonder why) My grandfather born just after the turn of the century in the same town as many of these idiots - Peckham to useless father into real poverty where he only went to school when his older brother was sick as there was only 1 pair of shoes to share amongst his brothers (you werent allowed at school without shoes). Despite him and his likes poverty and lack of priveledge the only riots they got involved in was against the black shirts at cable street. He joined the army underaged and there learnt to read and riot as well as serve in the war. The thing these kids are deprived of most is discipline. If it doesnt come from home then it needs to come in the classroom or on the street from the police. If you want to learn from the past maybe someone needs to consider that scarman and mcpherson has done more harm than good as following those reports we have gone too soft on these kids. Please stop coming up with excuses for the behaviour. Its been going for years and we have let them get away with it. It was no suprise that they thought they could get away with it on such a big scale. We have a great chance to reclaim the streets - please dont waste it by going soft again.

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