Hemingway

I?m voting green you fuckwit

?who you voting for this without flaws? Islamaphobia ok?? Don?t think the Green Party have form on this. you?re so tribal that anyone who criticise the Labour Party is a Tory.

As for the Labour Party and antisemitism, the AS of the hard left is not the AS of fascism or the hard right Fuck me you couldn?t make it up! What? Is it a gentler, kinder anti-semitism?

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anything to say about Boris's racism and > homophobia then. Anything at all? And let's also > not forget about the British woman languishing in > an Iranian jail because of Boris's lazy stupidity. > The man is shameful and yet has no shame. Virtue > signalling indeed. You and Sephiroth need to understand the difference between a racists individual and institutional racism, if you don't then look it uP, if you do then shame on you, defending racism Whataboutery whilst many British Jews are actually terrified about a Corbyn Government. The Labour Party, like only the BNP among political parties, is under investigation by the EHRC. the early submissions from previously loyal members of its own staff are horrific, Jewish MPS have been hounded out of the party. Comparing it to some of Johnsons remarks is disgusting as equivalent. Cleary anti-semitism doesn't matter to you. Standing up against racism is not Virtue Signalling.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I tried to build a Garden Bridge > I ran away and hid in a Fridge > > Who am I I am for the many not the few Unless you happen to be a jew Who am I?

The squirming and contortions on social media by people who claim to be non-racists to justify voting for an institutionally anti-Semitic party which is frightening British jews is a sight to behold today. Clearly anti-semitism doesn't really count as racism for huge number of laughably labelling themselves 'progressives' . Rank, hypocrites..makes me want to puke.

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hemingway Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > cella Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > so > > > they shouldn't vote against their own long > term > > > interests. > > > > a collapsed, socialist siege economy is against > > the long term interests of everyone > > > That just your version. A fairer society is what > we need. it's just based on looking at the economic basket cases of the regimes that Corbyn, McDonnell et al have long praised and wish to copy. They don't praise and support the higher tax, properly run, social democratic mixed economies of Scandinavia ever for example. nope, it's horrible and useless Marxist regimes the world over that these adolescent minded 70 year olds support and want to be.

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- so > they shouldn't vote against their own long term > interests. a collapsed, socialist siege economy is against the long term interests of everyone

I got my leaflet from Helen Hayes. No mention or photo of Jeremy Corbyn in any of it. I do hope she knocks on my door as she seems very reasonable and sensible, so I'd like to ask her if she thinks Jeremy Corbyn is really fit to be Prime Minister.

You can get booze in loads of places in Marrakech? Never yet stayed in a hotel where the first restaurant/bar down the road doesn't have a better ambience or food - all inclusive is terrible in terms of quality of offer. Even the booze tends to be bog-standard chip brands. Only way I think it makes sense is if you're a massive boozer (or eater) who doesn't care about quality.

PS I'm ABC by the way, partly as I really don't believe their economic policies will work and probably be disastrous. But more importantly the AS is disgusting. Labour voters can get off their self-righteous, supposed moral high ground, high horses as far as I'm concerned.

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But it won't be the Labour Party running those > nationalised companies Fishbiscuits. It will be > people who know how to run large companies and > ideally keep them in the black. Some things, like > transport however, will always be subsidised, but > at present we are subsidising private franchises > while they make good profits. > > As for debt, like all borrowing, investment is a > good option that ideally pays for itself over > time. We are in a race to the bottom economy at > the moment with a public who want tax cuts AND > better public services. Sooner or later, things > like adult social care are really going to bite > and there will be no option but for increased > borrowing for any party if they want to win > elections. But this doesn't happen. They tend to make political appointments, top quality management aren't really that motivated by nationalised industries; the lack of competition especially and the profit motive tend to drive inefficiencies; investment in the private sector the risk is (normally - the banking crisis was an exception!) with the shareholders, bondholder or lender; in nationalisation its the tax payer and there's nor really jeopardy. All very well meaning nationalisation is but we, the consumer end up with less choice; and in general the nationalised industries are inefficient, uninnovative and lack much incentive to be creative, competitive etc. and too often are a drain on the tax payer. The public support for renationalisation confounds me. I suspect it's a lack of memory or experience. They were generally shit for the customer and a drain on the public purse. Think anyone under 50 is going to have to experience this to believe it!

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > God help us all then with what Johnson will > unleash on the country if these flimsy reasons are > why you are going to support him and everything he > represents. Some of us feel exactly that about Corbyn as well as Johnson. Green for me on 'anyone but Corbyn" principles.

Don't worry Lou, it's a hallmark of Corbynistas that everyone who disagrees with the holy one is automatically branded as "Tory Scum"

Where are all the riots?

lol. Slightly strange initial thead....swiftly followed up with a post with alink to a betting site. So transparent.

mmm, suspicious. Makes me laugh, you're so obvious after affiliate fees, on this and many similar threads, putting links up to multiple sites loosely connected with the thread title often resurrected from years ago!

Except for occasional promotions, the odds are basically neutral on Expected Value, so hard to beat the bookies with their full time specialists setting odds. You could in the past use promotions and free bets to make a reasonable guaranteed profit via matched betting but the bookies are wiser to thisnow. If you have insider information on an event/horse etc you can make some money (unlikely you do) it would be good going, even exceptional, to make a 5% profit so to make ?5k you're looking at betting ?100,000 over say a year Exchanges give you a bit more potential but you need a lot of money in your account to make any decent money here and you're against many experts If you are any good you'll likely get bet restrictions/limits So all in all NO

in the vein of decentralised 'people power' I see commuters in Canning Town have taken their own direct action against XR this morning

it is. according to the Climate Change Performance Index, the UK is number 6 in doing most to fight climate change and given that position 1-3 don't go to anyone, we are the 3rd best performer, so we are leading the way and half of our electricity is now from non-fossil fuel. So idiots blocking central London for weeks screamung 'we are doing nothing' need to get hold of some facts and maybe invade the Chinese or Indian embassies rather than the easy targets they go for to feel good about themslves.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > protesters don't stop people getting to work in > London - well they did at Shell, Smithfields, The Bank of England, City Airport, the BBC, I could go on

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The accusation of hypocrisy is so easy to level > against those living in a system that is > fundamentally at odds with the environment. But > the ER crowd are demanding systematic change. > There is a limit to what individuals can achieve > alone - it requires collective action by > governments / large corporations. To say, you > can't have a view, or ask for change until you are > 100% carbon neutral yourself and are doing nothing > that contributes to mass extinction and > environmental degradation is simply nihilism. To > suggest that those who live in affluent countries > or are privileged shouldn't be able to have a > view, is the same. If you have privilege it is > more incumbent on you to use the power which comes > with that privileged to try and improve things. > It's easy to dismiss people as 'crusties' and > 'hippies', but when the sh*t hits the fan, your > kids aren't going to applaud you for being > cynical. But our and most EU governments are doing something - it's protest for protests sake now and alienating many people. You know that people will die if tomorrow we stop fossil fuel, flying and go to negative GDP. Poverty is a massive killer in its own right, as left wingers are normally so keen on telling us, a lack of available and affordable fuel for heating, cooking, clean water, food processing etc. let alone the funding of social care, health services etc with our economies going to some kind of ruritarian uncapitalistic fantasy land. We can't just go straight to carbon free green paradise. We have to set achievable and manageble targets. The technology isn't there yet. And all of this parks aside the obvious fact that India and China and, under its current president, the US aren't going to join with us. There are solutions but they involve using the cleaner of the current fossil fuels whilst we develop greener technology better and using nuclear, good luck with selling that to the people gluing themselves to Waterloo Bridge.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apparently the protesters are ''old > anti-capitalist rent-a- mob ravers combined with > naive school kids and their virtual signalling > parents'' and '' protesters include a princess, > aristocrats, posh Guardianistas''. So, quite a > varied demographic then. > And as for someone quoting O'Neil...:) Quite varied lifestyles - but on the whole fairly white and middle class

er, we are moving towards renewables already and pretty quickly. We have some of the most challenging emission targets in the world. it's just the old anti-capitalist rent-a- mob ravers combined with naive school kids and their virtual signalling parents. Outrage from the privileged, searching for some sense of victim hood.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- it is the poorer > people of the UK who have suffered most - but the > majority of people of ED, and other well-off > suburbs would not understand that as they have > benefited greatly from the whole deal and > expressed themselves with their over-privileged > verbosity at every opportunity. 48% is not a metropolitan elite, just another cliched piece of bullshit from Brexiters. There's no substance just crap unconvincing cliches, deep in their hearts I think they know it too.