Sherwick

We already have 'more than punishment'. We have all sorts of (free) social care, charities etc. What more can we do?

totally chaotic is what it's meant to be, surely?

As I said earlier, a living tomb isn't good enough. Let them out when they're 80 so they can see what they've missed in their lives.

What precisely is wrong with some form of retribution anyway?

England about to lose to the Dutch. What a joke! (6)

What's wrong with some revenge after the type of crime these guys committed??? Anyway, FWIW I think that the Death Penalty is too quick and agree that life and being let out when you're 80 (so you can see what you've missed) is best as a punishment.

It's a sad miserable energy-sapping place...

nicko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, I arrived as the smoke alarm was going off > and wondered if I'd done a wrong'un. Fortunately > my fears were unfounded. > I understand what you mean about being haphazard > but isn't that the authentic italian way? Yep, the last thing we need is American fast-food efficiencies and Lean Six Sigma processes in this little Italian Pizzaria thank you very much!

Yes, RIP.

Didn't someone once say something along the lines of "there is no society"?

Here's a statement from one of the murdered boy's father, Guy Bonomo: Laurent was born on 9th October 1984 and you took the decision to end his life on 29th June 2008. You were not satisfied with breaking in and stealing his computer a week before you killed him. After the burglary, Laurent was terrified. He cried on the phone to me and I tried to comfort and reassure him. It was then that I realised that although a young man, he was still my little boy. I explained to Laurent that he'd grown up in a sheltered student environment and was na?ve about the outside world. He was easy prey to people like you. I told him to be vigilant at all times. He needed to grow up quickly if he was going to marry and have children with his fianc?e Marie. We have sat in court for the last six weeks, hoping for answers, trying to find out what happened to our children. But you have lied in court and have refused to tell the truth. This is what we have been waiting for. Without knowing what happened that night and why, we cannot move on and find peace. I ask you again, Why? You know the atrocities that you have committed. Your attitude and apparent lack of remorse shows us that you have no conscience at all. Tell me why you have done this? I need to have answers. Guy Bonomo, Laurent's father (to his son's killers) For the last eleven months, I have been forced to speak about Laurent in the past tense, when all I could see for him was a bright future. Laurent was a fantastic boy. From the day he was born, he brought happiness to friends and family. He was kind and loved life. You took him away from those that loved him deeply. Do you know the meaning of love? Laurent adored his parents and not only are we suffering, but also his ten year old sister, Ambre. Laurent was her big brother and her hero. He was the one who looked out for her and protected her. She was so proud when she talked about him to her friends and it is unbearable to watch her suffering and struggling to cope with her loss. Laurent came from a large family. He had ten cousins and he was the eldest and the one that everyone looked up to. Every Christmas, we would gather together as a family, only last Christmas, he was not there. Their leader and hero was gone. Before Laurent came to London, he and Marie took part in a civil ceremony to cement their relationship. They were planning their future together. Her life has now stopped. Laurent had many incredible friends who loved him dearly. Not only have you taken Laurent's life ,you've taken my heart and soul. I need to try to learn to live without my son, to try and live a normal existence and try to forget the torture you inflicted upon him, but I am tormented by images of his suffering. Laurent's little sister is aware that I am here in London for the trial and she has asked me if the bad people who did this to her big brother will be punished. Her mother and I have told her that they will go to prison for a long time and will not be able to hurt anyone else, she replied with a big smile. For her you represent evil. I wish from the bottom of my heart that you will stay in prison for the rest of your lives. I can't bear to think that someone so evil will walk the streets again, that my daughter or a member of my family could encounter you again. I appeal to you as Laurent's father to have a conscience. To end our misery and suffering by one day telling the truth about our son's final hours.

Unbelieveably, given that it's 2009, I think the BNP are going to get lots of votes.. :(

>:D

Just on the news that Dano Sonnex of Peckham has been found guilty of murdering the two French students. He sounds like quite a basketcase with a very bad history by all accounts: "Sonnex, 23, comes from a family with a history of violence and crime. The court heard his brother, Bernie Junior, had served 10 separate prison sentences, while his father, Bernie Senior, had been convicted of 47 offences, including gun and drug offences, and had served six jail sentences. His sister, Louise, is currently in jail after being convicted of wounding and causing grievous bodily harm. At the time of the murders Sonnex was on licence after being released early from a five-year sentence he received after, at the age of 16, he stabbed a man he barely knew three times. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8030777.stm I wouldn't be at all surprised if Dano and/or his family have been involved in burglaries and other crime in East Dulwich in the past...

Geez, I'm hungry just thinking about their pizzas now.. unfortuantely I'm in the City all day. :(((

I don't really understand this protest to be honest because the Tamils already have their own vast homeland just to the north of Sri Lanka called Tamil Nadu (in India and it's larger than all of Sri Lanka). Take a look at the map if you don't believe me. Anyway, just my 0.5p.

I'm reading Ruskie: Beers, Bears & Babushkas by Matthew Francis (a first effort by a very good friend of mine). His style is very much like the late, great Douglas Adams (not quite as good yet of course!). Here's a a description from http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=59114 Ruskie: Beers, Bears & Babushkas shows a picture of Russia, Russian Business and the Russian People as they really are. Admittedly, they don?t all drink copious amounts of Vodka but some of them do. Not all Russian women threaten to cut off their fingers as proof of their love for someone, then again some of them do. In general, Businessmen in Moscow don?t go around shooting their competitors in order to make sure their business succeeds, but, you guessed it, once again some of them still do! Matthew Francis, a young Englishman, arrives to set up a ?Western Style? consulting practice in Moscow and gives a hilarious account of the pleasures and perils of being a Brit in Russia. Faster than a Russian woman chasing a designer handbag, scarier than being threatened by the Moscow Mafia, and sexier than watching Maria Sharapova play tennis in her underwear. Or maybe not! One thing for sure, this is a story of the Real Russia, the Russia you definitely don?t read about in the newspapers!

ShinyShiny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyone know any good routes from ED? It takes > hours via clapham, wandsworth, richmond. All > online route planners and sat nav systems want to > take me that way with a quoted journey time of 32 > minutes! It's all lies! > > I've tried the method of getting my friends to > move house, but they won't budge...help! 32 minutes? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! It'll take you 32 minutes just to get out of Dulwich!

I should add that I didn't have the cheapest pizza either. Paul, dunno if it's BYO or not..

Great pizza (thin, crispy, delicious) at great prices (?5:80 for a pizza and a coke). What more could you ask for?!

That always seems to me to be a bit of a dangerous crossing. However, I think there are traffic lights right there? Best wishes for a speedy recovery of course.

Did Snorky not go to Dulwich College then..?

ROONEY: I don't trust this kid any further than I can throw him! GRACE: With your bad knee, you better not throw anybody, Ed.

I remember something called space dust in school (in the late 70s) - it kind of crackled on your tongue.. There were also some bizarre non-edible things like glow putty, bouncy putty etc.

HonaloochieB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sherwick Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > The Beano was rubbish and for girls compared to > > Valiant! > > The Valiant was of course for boys, Cap'n > Hurricane very rarely got in touch with his > feminine side, though looking back on it his > relationship with his batman 'Maggot' Malone may > have been why he used to have his 'ragin' > furies'. > Thwarted sexuality perhaps? > Though Jack O' Justice had a female sidekick, Moll > Moonlight, she was blond and pretty and used to > give me a funny feeling in my lower stomach. > Mind I used to read my sister's Bunty on the > quiet, there was the cut out doll on the back page > and Mary Raleigh of the Four Marys - cue funny > feeling in lower stomach. > I would always find myself getting involved with > the stories about the crippled ballerinas with > cruel stepmothers who were taken on as protegees > by strict but kindly Russian emigrees. These > strips were usually called 'I Shall Dance'. > But have a care the way you talk of the Beano > Sherwick, agreed it's long past its best but was a > great kid's comic. > And it was not for girls, it was of course unisex. You're tellin' me to have a care after what you said about Cap'n Hurricane?!?!? Thwarted sexuality?!?!???!!! How dare you, Sir!!! Damn you, and damn your duck-pond!