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Good point Droler, I'll just tell my nanny to stop being dramatic and that caughing up 23% of her salary an hour is completely affordable to park at our house and the guy next door who's selling his households second vehicle he uses for work is also totally affordable at ?240 a year. Frankly they can both just man up and cut back on their flat whites.

I just feel very sad for the have nots who probably make up the vast majority of those affected, who like me missed the real question being asked in the CPZ consultation - do you want to be priced out of car ownership. if they wanted to modify behaviour installing car charge points and demand based parking pricing would be so much better in delivering an outcome over punishing those who cannot realistically afford these solution indiscriminate charges.as it stands - this feels like an effort to reward those that can afford it. I was advised on the phone that even care workers for disabled people need to pay the flat charges, there are no special categories. Jimlad, in all fairness - calling a majority on a 15% turnout democracy is probably the funniest thing I have ever heard. thanks for making my evening. good night all - keep classy.

Thanks for the helpful advice, I presume it depends on how hacked people feel. I suspect quite a lot of people are becoming a lot more than the 15 percent that voted are becoming much more informed and interested now it's happening. I gather you had a Facebook page - was that a good way of getting people together on the issue? How many people do you need to get it as an official petition?

I read your many posts so understand where you are with this. No need to defend your position, it's your prerogative. I'm deeply unhappy about the scheme and how unfair it is, so will try to see if anyone agrees with me. As you did the other way around. No point in arguing, it's just a different point of view.

Thanks Loz. I'm just hoping this might be a good forum to advertise if anyone wants to mobilise now that it's happened. I didn't look on here beforehand (I was pretty naive to the issues, but said no myself as I was fairly happy with the old arrangement) but am now mighty cross it's happened and hope others might find there way here anew like me :-)

great to see this conversation getting so much attention. I understand there is some spillover pressure from other CPZ's which might make daytime parking stressful - although personally as a resident of Talfourd Rd for 11 years I have never had a problem. My observations are - we have had a massive loss of parking with double yellow lines - even over the drives of peoples own houses which prevents them from blocking themselves in and freeing up parking. secondly, inevitably the costs of permitting are huge -considering the borough is fairly poor how are the majority of people supposed to afford 125 for the first car and 240 for the second? thirdly, we have a nanny - who was previously unemployed and we use her to drive our kids to school (my wife and I both work) - she is not a Southwark resident so her car cannot be registered. We calculate the cost of permitting her car is around 3,000 a year. so unfortunately she needs to be let go - it breaks my heart - back on the dole. On this basis my wife will probably need to give up work to manage the childcare (I'm sure Southwark have thought all this through). the alternative is we buy the nanny a car to drive to our house every day and register it here... not sure that will help with the parking. thirdly, we are doing some building work - current 2 vans working at our house. with a distinct lack of options, all we can do is suspend two bays, cost 3,500. now we have no choice and can just about afford this, but honestly - how on earth are the majority of people supposed to find this money. it is so unfair - and really feels like it is punishing the residents, particularly those who are not very well off but need a car. is anybody up for starting a petition to repeal it?