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JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > worst. speech. ever. by. a . prime. minister. > > Hope they've doubled the guard on parliament. Agree. Gutter politics. And woeful strategically.

Thanks DB. For those in her constituency, TODAY is the day to email. It can take as little as 1 minute if you're busy and want to keep it brief. [email protected] Great that Helen Hayes has come out for a 2nd Referendum. The idea that another vote is anti-democratic when TM's deal bears NO resemblance to what was sold to us 2.5 years ago is getting harder and harder to swallow. A whole-scale failure to live up to all those Brexit promises IS anti-democratic.

Yep, DR....should have clarified...

2nd referendum odds now 13/8 on! ps good day to SEND YOUR MP AN EMAIL if you haven't already. Helen Hayes is backing another vote, but it might be helpful to let Harriet Harman know your views. 'If any agreement is voted down by Parliament, my preference is for there to be a general election - to try to get a Government that can negotiate the best agreement for our country. However, if a general election is not possible, all other options for breaking the impasse must be kept open including a public vote.'

Not sure if this is the right place for this moderator (?) but I would highly recommend Lis. She does podcasts for the Guardian explaining the art of a stand-out CV. She's just been hugely helpful with mine. She hasn't asked me to post here which is part of the reason I thought I might... https://www.giraffecvs.co.uk/

For anyone wanting to email their MP re. a Vote on the Deal: [email protected]

FreyaMikaelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Labour has turned London into the Middle Eastern > shit hole it is today. I can only imagine those > who are voting to remain are supporters of > terrorism & would like Sharia Law implemented into > our society. Those voting to remain haven't got a > clue what's actually going on in this country, > because you get your opinions from the > brain-washing lefty media. The above the best possible promo for the March 20th October. Brexit = illiberalisation of British Culture.

Yep - the current 'norms' are the equivalent of an alternative universe in which a 52/48 split in favour of Remain sees Chukka, Chris Leslie etc telling the 48% Leavers that the only route forwards is to join the Euro asap. March on 20th! Resist the nutjob right!!

EU not massively up for 'blind Brexit' either... Can't believe we're talking about a BLIND Brexit

Numbers are going to be tight though, aren't they?

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Just because you don't like the outcome and are > Finally realising what you voted for, you can't > change the vote now. So as you said, march and > shout as much as you like, it will make no > difference. Guaranteed. > > Oh and one final thing, it is highly likely the UK > will leave with no deal. Hope not dbboy! The first People's Vote march made it onto most of the front pages. The idea of a People's Vote has gained a lot more traction since that first march - helped of course by the ongoing shambles, infighting and chaos that is our attempt to leave the EU. Politicians are deeply affected by the public's mood, and public opinion is shifting as the facts become clearer. At present there's no majority in parliament for a Chequers-style deal, or a No deal. And Canada plus is unworkable because of a) the border in Northern Ireland and b) the loss of manufacturing jobs in the UK. The Tories won't call an election. So when the parliamentary impasse arrives, what's the alternative?

Yep, it's no longer hypothetical. Bookies' odds for a second referendum now 2 to 1...

We weren't well informed first time round (crap talked on both sides). We'll be much better informed if a second vote happens. A better informed electorate means better democracy. Theresa May called a General Election half-way through a fixed-term parliament and there weren't riots in the streets...

My son is 6 and I think would be keen. Are you committed to matches every Sunday? Thanks!

Really helpful....thanks guys

Thanks Angelina. Will have a look at your one.

Does anyone have any thoughts on bread makers and which ones are good? And do you actually end up using it as an alternative to buying bread regularly ie are they fairly straightforward to use? Getting a bit fed up with local options which are either run of the mill sliced from newsagents, or v expensive from smart bakery places....Thoughts gratefully received!

I'd second what midivydale says - the slightly mental bit at the beginning passes very quickly. Trust that you won't be getting up x times a night forever! Second time round parents seem to be a lot more relaxed and that's probably to do with a bit of extra experience, but also just knowing how quickly it all changes makes you a bit more chilled about the less good bits. A six month old baby is very different from a four week old baby.... I'd get local networks going - NCT, or those groups on the forum. Hanging out with on your own with a baby ain't always a bag of laughs. A friendly face over a cuppa makes a big difference. Someone gave me the tip of doing 'one thing a day' when I was pregnant, and I think it's quite a good rule of thumb. You'll soon have a two year old on your hands and the days pass a lot more quickly and happily if they're hanging out with a pal... Take advantage of the fact that you're not bound to bedtimes at home when they're tiny (ie they can sleep in a sling, or a buggy). We ended up in the pub a fair bit when first one was little. In some ways you have a lot more flexibility pre. orderly bedtimes and cots! Good luck!

Thanks all - they look great!

Heading over there Saturday night.......and wondering if anyone has any clever ideas? Thank you!

Thanks Mimosa. Will PM. And thanks Emski - just what I was after. That list really helpful!

Has anyone got any good recommendations? Kids are 6 and 4. Just starting to think about the reality of a seven hour drive to North Wales! Thanks! (son has loved the How to Train your Dragon series and a few others but any bright ideas gratefully received...)

Barry's is a really great local newsagents. It would be really sad to see another supermarket go in (will have two Sainsbury's, two M and Ss, and two co-ops in ED...). An entirely residential unit (more in keeping with what's there) would make a lot more sense. Will write to Southwark!

I think what I mean is that one of the damaging by-products of the referendum, is a ? perhaps understandable ? feeling of guilt or shame from those now categorised as the ?elite? ie metropolitan, educated, professional types. Because Brexit is, in part, understood as a kick back by certain groups who are having an extremely hard time, I think there is a slight feeling of paralysis from those of us who voted Remain, who are probably having a comparatively easier time, and this guilt (I hear it when I talk to centre-left journalist friends who hate Brexit, but articulate some degree of impotence because after all they?re the lucky ones, and the people who voted to Leave aren?t, so what more is there to say?) But the weight of some of this emotion does mean that people who are preternaturally liberal in their instincts, who ordinarily might have carried on fighting against Brexit with a clear eye, have become resigned to something with which they profoundly disagree.