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"As we recover from coronavirus, we?re starting to see more private vehicles using parts of the road network than before? - that's because you can't pop up to Herne Hill (for example) and be sure of actually getting on the 37 after waiting for 20 minutes; or get a bus to Peckham Rye Station. The 30 min parking on Lordship Lane is a Godsend when heading home after a trip out and you need to pick up some quick groceries or a curry; or to buy a bootful of meat from William Rose. It's like the idiots at Southwark Council think "How can we upset East Dulwich residents today?"

Same happened to me this afternoon - was a moped with the rider eating a sandwich while riding. At the moment, the kerb looks like Oglander Road will curve around into Adys Road, with the bit down towards Maxted Road being closed off. Might just be a temporary measure though.

I would rarely drive to a business on Melbourne Grove, but I wouldn't know about the businesses if I hadn't driven past them at some point. This is a real Ivory Tower decision that has been made without any thought of the knock-on effects on any other road restriction. One more road restirction around here and we'll all be stuck in an infinite loop, never able to get out of or back to our homes again.

> > Complaints on here always seem to be about > Virgin! > > I am genuinely bemused as to why people stay > with them. When it works, it's brilliant. We've got the 300Mbit package and didn't have a single drop-out, slow service or fault for a year. Worth every penny. But.... VM are useless and arrogant at sorting problems. If you suspect there's a widespread problem, support will have you turning your modem on and off (even if you've just done it), forcing you to hang up and call back again when you've rebooted (another call queue). And if you think there's an on-site problem (our outside wall box connection worked loose once) they won't book an engineer because they claim there's a local network issue. A-holes. It's the same with non-VM in my experience. Sky claim there's a BT line fault, BT claim it's all working fine, and so on. I haven't experienced the new non-VM fibre though. Back on topic, it's been on and off here (Bellenden / Oxenford / Copelstone area) ever since the major outage a month or so ago. It's useful and reassuring to see when other locals are having problems, as I don't waste time trying to see if I've got an internal fault. Was off this morning 10am - 12pm ish, but back on at the moment.

Reposted from another thread by request... The whole area is becoming a nightmare. I am all for some residential streets to be blocked off at one end or made one-way, as long as there are sensible through routes without making long detours. But it's the piecemeal way in which these measures have been implemented, without a cohesive strategy to improve the streets for everyone, including drivers, cyclists, public transport and residents. It's impossible to follow your nose anywhere, and sat navs are always a few months behind, so I'm sure that the current layout leaves drivers aimlessly driving around residential streets. I tried to drive across to Denmark Hill last week, coming out of my area at the Champion Hill lights. Then, there's no access via Champion Hill to Denmark Hill, so you can't go straight on. And it's a no right turn, so I had to turn left, head into Sainsburys, around the roundabout and back out in the direction I wanted to head. I guess there's a rat run through to Camberwell somewhere but I don't know it. If you want to get from DKH way down to Crystal Palace Road, you can't turn right from East Dulwich Road into CPR, so you have to either do a u-turn in the garage / Tescos, or a big detour around The Gardens and streets around there. Or, if you're in the know, head down Ondine Road or the narrow bit of East Dulwich Road by the church, so you can go straight on into CPR. Just adding layer upon layer of complexity doesn't improve the streets for anyone. The council should go back to the drawing board for the whole area and think about what they really want to achieve post Covid-19 rather than adding to the maze.

@wulfhound, more likely they never gave it a thought. It seems that every decision is taken in isolation and no thought is ever given to whether a previous restriction is still necessary or appropriate. Probably a "not my department" thing. One day, someone's going to introduce a restriction that puts all traffic into a loop that it can't get out of.

The whole area is becoming a nightmare. I am all for some residential streets to be blocked off at one end or made one-way, as long as there are sensible through routes without making long detours. But it's the piecemeal way in which these measures have been implemented, without a cohesive strategy to improve the streets for everyone, including drivers, cyclists, public transport and residents. It's impossible to follow your nose anywhere, and sat navs are always a few months behind, so I'm sure that the current layout leaves drivers aimlessly driving around residential streets. I tried to drive across to Denmark Hill last week, coming out of my area at the Champion Hill lights. Then, there's no access via Champion Hill to Denmark Hill, so you can't go straight on. And it's a no right turn, so I had to turn left, head into Sainsburys, around the roundabout and back out in the direction I wanted to head. I guess there's a rat run through to Camberwell somewhere but I don't know it. If you want to get from DKH way down to Crystal Palace Road, you can't turn right from East Dulwich Road into CPR, so you have to either do a u-turn in the garage / Tescos, or a big detour around The Gardens and streets around there. Or, if you're in the know, head down Ondine Road or the narrow bit of East Dulwich Road by the church, so you can go straight on into CPR. Just adding layer upon layer of complexity doesn't improve the streets for anyone. The council should go back to the drawing board for the whole area and think about what they really want to achieve post Covid-19 rather than adding to the maze.

Must be a drain on your finances. It would drive me around the u-bend. You should write a ci-stern letter to the Council. Seriously, though, I hope you can get the Council to prosecute these fly-tippers. It takes the p*ss when you have to pay to get rid of other people's rubbish.

What?

Let's sort out the builders first. 3 solid days of banging, drilling and sanding from next door's garden. And for the few moments that it does stop, it's farkin this and farkin that. Tearing hair out, but I accept it's the price you pay for working from home in a crowded city.

This would cause a lot of headaches for residents of North Cross Road and surrounding areas. It would mean that NCR would be closed. The only other through-road access into the area is Crystal Palace Road, but that's no right turn from East Dulwich Road. So, to get to The Actress end of NCR from Lordship Lane, it would mean either doing a U-Turn in the garage / Tescos, or taking a rat run through the back streets (Crawthew Grove, etc).

Probably because they can walk around a park but not around people's back gardens. I assume that they would stop a garden party if they walked past one and were aware of it.

Young 20s neighbours today have a gang of mates around for a BBQ. They aren't typically disrespectful types either. I just can't fathom out where the message isn't getting through - do they not understand? do they not care? I'm just a bit shocked as they are usually the first to be championing social causes and so on.

Peckham Rye was way too busy this evening. I passed several groups of 4-6 young adults on the pavement between East Dulwich Road and Barry Road. None of them moved into single file so I had to walk right out into the road to get by whilst maintaining my distance. And I'd find it hard to believe that they were all family or house share groups. Plenty of people on the common too. All seemed spread out and in small groups. A lot of people sitting around rather than getting essential exercise, although I guess that fresh air is just as important as exercise if you don't have outdoor space at home. Sadly, this weekend is going to be a big test. If we don't resist the temptation to hang out in the park in the good weather then the lockdown is just going to get tighter.

Just trip the joggers up. If they fall over your feet then then shouldn't have been so close anyway.

Lordship Lane was just one long queue today. The queue for William Rose was down to ESPH and it was hard to tell whether the M&S queue went all the way down to East Dulwich Grove or whether it was queues for different shops. M&S at the station has plenty of Easter goodies in stock though.

Two times in the past week around Oxenford, Bellenden, Copleston area I've come bonnet to bonnet with cars belting down the middle of the road. Young, single drivers both times. Today's driver refused to pull into the big parking space on his left. Also there's been an increase in drivers using the right-turn box from East Dulwich Road into Adys Road for overtaking or driving through the red lights. On the other hand, I saw two people walk out in front of cars without looking on Lordship Lane today. Very little we can do at the moment but the quiet streets mean that some drivers are driving like maniacs and some pedestrians risk walking out in front of them.

They won't notice if the internet speed goes down then

Demand-led pricing..... It's the high prices at times of high demand that allows companies to sell things cheaper when demand is lower - Amazon, Uber, airlines - all the same. It may not seem fair at times like this but we benefit from it at other times.

Virgin Media here is running at 295Mbs rather than the advertised 300Mbs so I shall be complaining. Could get worse than this if it rains and everyone heads inside to watch iPlayer or Netflix though.

Sainsbury's is definitely quiet and generally people were giving each other space - hard to do when an aisle is less than 2m wide though. Re the "confused messages," it's a rapidly changing situation, so you would expect messages to change over two weeks. The way the inevitable lockdown has been phased in, is pretty responsible. It's given everyone time to reflect and realise that this is a very serious situation. A lockdown from day 1 would have led people to think that the government was overreacting, and would have been very difficult to enforce and sustain.

We had the same callers as trinidad, on the same day. The older lad said the kid was doing a sponsored jump and I thought he was far too young to skydive, but it all stacks up now. They seemed nice enough and it may be legitimate, but I agree that door-to-door collecting isn't the best approach.

The car wash at Sainsbury's / Champion Hill has always been great for me - friendly, helpful staff and a good job, but I've just seen this thread: /forum/read.php?30,1918531 Worth keeping an eye out for schools / charities / local sports groups doing fundraising car washes. Or get a mobile valet company out and support a local business.

@micromacromonkey That's hardly the point of this thread. The point is that basic items are completely out of stock before a lot of people get back from work, and that the staff don't seem as motivated (or as hygienic) as they were previously. I'd be happy to buy blemished produce, without any plastic packaging, if Sainsbury's actually had any in stock.

I complained a few years ago about empty shelves, coupled with items on the wrong shelves (or maybe the right shelves with the wrong prices on). I emailed a load of photos with my complaint and received calls and emails within 24 hours. The manager called to say that they had used the photos in a training session and invited me in for a "guided shop." He was very helpful and said that they are aware of the problems and taking steps to rectify them. That was about 5 years ago, and things never improved. It's got even worse. (Attached photo from a few months back). Last week, I popped in for some fresh fruit at around 4pm and was told that the day's delivery had already sold out and the next delivery would come overnight. I guess that the ED store is constantly busy and they can't hold enough stock to get through the day. I wish they'd get rid of the tat section and dedicate the space to more display or warehouse space for food. I'm sure most shoppers would welcome the better food supply, even if it meant having to go elsewhere to get a saucepan or broken toy. What forks me off most though, is that the loose fruit / veg is empty but they often have plenty of prepacked fruit and veg. This is a bit hypocritical, when Sainsbury's claims to have removed single-use plastic bags for the benefits of the environment. The manager told me that they would allow customers to break into prepacked goods when the loose shelves were empty, but I've never tried it. It's not a new thing either - I've found this article from 2004 - sorry it's a subscriber article, but you get the gist from the first few paragraphs - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sainsburys-crisis-is-laid-bare-2f7d2rcs2dg