I read this thread with interest. To be clear, I sell the GoodNature A25 traps and I know a how they operate. The GoodNature A24 traps are designed to be discrimate and with a trained hand avoid hedgehog deaths. Unlike poison or grip 'Fenn' traps the GOodNature Traps are humane, toxin free and provide a high quality trap for the urban enviroment. I understand that rodent control for some is squeamish exercise. However, the GoodNature traps are at the forefront of design and innovation and should be encouraged. Alternatives including poison can be a poorer and less humane choice in rodent control. For more info please visit: www.goodtrappingcompany.co.uk