Winder

OK, maybe it's an old thread but it is really relevant especially since we have just had an election. My observation is that there has been much fewer posters in windows this time round. Have people reviewed their effectiveness?

Gloves Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Black Jag eh! Someone is doing alright! Not necesserily; could have been a 1964 Mk 10 Jag, Yuk!

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Kier Starmer and Emily Thornberry are very > competent and I'd trust them to lead constructive > Brexit negotiations above May, Boris and Hammond > frankly. Listened to him also but he failed to defend the soft line he has taken in the past with with terror suspects. He was against deportation for example. When he was at DPP he was a disaster. He is out of touch with today's realities eg 3 major attacks in 3 months in the UK. I appreciate you are keen to favour us all with your views with all in your eagerness but maybe you should have put your post in another thread 'cos this is about political posters in windows

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Winder Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JohnL Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Winder Wrote: > > > I was just observing how the current laws > > restrict options and how "watching" them is > > totally useless as a preventative measure. It's > > like wearing a condom against a machine gun. > > > OK, what are your best ideas. Give us just five > > and I am sure this will tell us all we need to > > know. > > > > Don't hold back, let it flow, be creative. > > > Intelligence. Local knowledge. Winning the support > of the Muslim community. Changing the minds of > potential suicide bombers. Good luck with that but I won't hold your breath waiting > Cutting of their access to explosives and guns. They don't need guns or explosives. > cutting off their money. The one last Saturday used his student loan! Didnt attend lectures. > Persuading the powers in the Middle East they we > have common cause in this respect (yes, this means > working with the Saudi's). Do me a favour, Saudi money is the source of much of their funds. > There are no magic buttons or secret methods. Agreed. > There is only well-worn paths of infiltrating > these groups, finding out who is controlling them, > destroying their ability to command and control. > There's no point swatting small fry who might be > up to something, when you can track who they take > their orders from five thousand miles away and put > a missle through their window. That's standard American approach and it has failed miserably. > Let's be realistic here, a lot of them we can talk down. Hasn't worked so far. These Jihadis are committed to the pointt of beliving suicide will get thenm 70 virgins. > Fund the intelligence services and the police > properly, and let them do their job. Agreed. You use them to identify the potential players. Then you act! OK, so you have come up with some ideas and I do not rate them one single bit. Now ask yourslf- what is there to stop six of them, with knives crashing a hired van into a crowd say coming out of a big sporting event like Wimbledon?

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think it means literally sitting outside > their house/ following them 24hours every day. Do you watch them when they go to Avis to rent a van? Which they then use on London Bridge. I do not know where you're coming from.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Winder Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JohnL Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > And stop the cheap shots from the Tory side - You > just made me furious - How dare you there are many > many ways to solve a problem. I was just observing how the current laws restrict options and how "watching" them is totally useless as a preventative measure. It's like wearing a condom against a machine gun. It just takes one to go out with a knife. Then multiply that by "X" Jihadis on any one night over a city. Big problem. You say "there are many way to solve the problem". OK, what are your best ideas. Give us just five and I am sure this will tell us all we need to know. Don't hold back, let it flow, be creative.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Of course even when talking about terrorism - this > guy was known > > Why wasn't he watched - resources of course. >

You should not have any problem. If you do then one of those little internal aeriels will suffice.

One sees the odd house with a poster in the window or a bill board in the front yard saying " VOTE for ****". Is this naff or should we all be doing it?

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can we have our police back now please? Had the Manchester atrocity happened 3 weeks earlier, I wonder how many manifestos would have featured a cutback in the foreign aid budget to fund anti-terrorism at home.

Drxyster Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > "Talk Mobile" are closing and are offering to > transfer you to "Vodaphone", It is worthwhile pointing out that it is only the "Pay-as-you-go" service from Talkmobile that is ending on 31st August. Here are the details:- https://talkmobile.co.uk/payg/closure They run a virtual network on the Vodafone network and are not part of Vodafone. I have a contract with Tlkmobile and have found them to be excellent and I get a much better signal than I had with EE and O2.