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Keef Wrote: I just said > that I don't think it's a new thing. I was at > school in the 90s, so not really that long ago, > and things were the same! The huge no of teenagers stabbed in the last couple of years IS a new thing. (Have a read of that Kings College report on knife crime)

lozzyloz Wrote:> teenagers always kick up, but the worrying trend > today is the increase in knife and gun crime > amongst teenagers whether or not it results in a > death. Indeed!

Keef Wrote: > The quotes you've used are interesting, and no > doubt true. However, all they really show is that > it's far more dangerous to be a kid than to be an > adult. Well yes, that is exactly the point I'm making! As I said at the start of the thread " life as a teenager is pretty perilous these days. People are naive if they don't realise that, and that it impacts on East Dulwich."

macroban Wrote: > > National averages being projected on to a local > situation. Well if you want to believe that Southwark is less of a risk for young people than elsewhere in the country then you go right ahead! I'm taking it you aren't the parent of a teenager?! I find it quite odd that people really have no idea the sort of stuff that goes on as young people attempt to get to and from school! I have worked in this field for a long time, in several different parts of London, and I'm telling you, it's nothing like it was when I was at school myself 20+ years ago.

"Compared to adults, children and young people experience greater levels of violent crime victimisation. According to the 2006?2007 BCS, the risk of becoming a victim of violent crime is 3.6 per cent for a British adult. However, the available figures for children and young people provide a striking and stark contrast. For young men aged 16 to 24 the risk was almost four times greater: 13.8 per cent experienced a violent crime of some sort in the year prior to their BCS interview. ... almost half of children attending school surveyed in the 2004 YJB Youth Survey had been victims of a crime in the previous year. And according to the 2005 OCJS, just under one-fifth (18 per cent) of young people aged from 10 to 25 years had been a victim of an assault in the last 12 months, with 10 to 15 year olds more likely to have been victims than 16 to 25 year olds (20 per cent and 16 per cent respectively). The evidence clearly suggests that children and young people suffer much higher rates of victimisation" Source: ?Knife Crime? A review of evidence and policy Centre for Crime and Justice Studies King?s College London 2007

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps, but the fact remains that your average > kid has nothing to do with all this. I doubt > numbers have changed much at all in terms of > personnel, but maybe they think a lot less before > actually using a knife these days. > > For the record, I work with a lot of teenagers in > pretty shitty areas too, so I'm not just making > stuff up as I go along. Where I work (E London) Knife crime and violent mugging amongst young people is a real problem, and on occasion young people are threatened with guns too. You're not telling me that Peckham is any better!! Only a short bus ride away. Your "average kid" isn't carrying a weapon, agreed... but they sure run the risk of running into someone who is!

ratty Wrote:> Because they use them more regularly. Sorry, but I > work with drug users and on the peripheary with > gang members and the levels of violence and > violent crime have increased hugely amongst the > young. Indeed. Trust me, life as a teenager is pretty perilous these days. People are naive if they don't realise that, and that it impacts on East Dulwich.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We've just decided to opt out of Kings and go for > a home birth. It's our first, but to be honest, > the level of care you get from the home birth > midwife schemes in the area seems to outshine > anything that a hospital has to offer. Hurry then, you need to book with the hb midwives (Oakwood, Brierley or Albany) by about 6 weeks pregnant to get on their list!!

Keef Wrote: The simple fact is that you get > horrible bullying little shits wherever you are, > and unfortunately dealing with it is part of being > a teenager at school. But by and large, teenagers didn't carry knives etc, when we were at school.

If a school had to depend on outside authorities to plan its spending, it wouldn't actually have any resources with which to carry out its plans.

It's nice to be walking distance of one of the parks, dulwich park or peckham rye. Goose green park is quite nice too. Most of the primary schools are pretty good, there are threads on here with comments. The centre of ED is quite pricey, but handy for the shops, and close to Heber school which is very nice. A bit further along is Goodrich, also nice and cheaper around there I think. Down near the roundabout is St Johns (Cof E) and Puddleduck nursery is lovely (church hall)

Deptford pool is nice, but is a leisure type pool.

The metal is worth a lot melted down apparently.

Our chickens loved kitchen scraps, especially sweetcorn and spaghetti, they went mad when they saw that, think they thought it was very long worms. Be warned cleaning out the house and pen in the winter is a horrible job!

Buy a handysitt, a little wooden folding seat you can clip over a grown up chair. http://www.handysitt.biz/ Voila.

The difficulty is either you fill your whole garden with a huge pen, or you keep them in quite a small space, or you let them out/free range, but even in the daytime with you nearby a fox can have them. We also had foxes sitting on the pen roof a lot of the time, biding their time!!! There's no issue with the council and keeping a few chickens, why should there be? Lot less antisocial than dogs! PS They can get fleas and lice and things, it can be hard to get vet care. I know a farmer which was a help when needed some medicine for ours.

We did, bantams, we got them from someone else who lives locally. Got a coop from someone via ebay, dug it in well to prevent foxes digging in. Sadly they both got eaten by foxes while out in the garden one afternoon. There are places you can buy Chicken feed and supplies in Kent and Surrey. Female chickens don't make much noise or fuss, btw.

As the schools are built under PFI it's even worse: http://www.unison.org.uk/pfi/caseagainst.asp http://www.unison.org.uk/file/A2340.pdf

Perhaps they just have a deal to park there. Are they empty vans, first thing?

Sponsors often end up not paying the required amount http://education.guardian.co.uk/newschools/story/0,,2048485,00.html "Even with this sort of inducement, sponsors proved very hard to find. A few expressed an interest, only to withdraw as they saw the depth of local hostility. Those who stayed were remarkably reluctant actually to part with cash. In May 2006, the Guardian reported that most of them had not paid the ?2m. Four academies that had been open for nearly a year had not received a penny from their sponsor. With 27 academies up and running, sponsors had paid up only ?26m. It's partly for this reason that, last year, the government suddenly announced a revolution in the way the academy programme is run. Sponsors would no longer have to put any money at all upfront. Instead they are invited to make "endowments" over the years. "

ratty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can anyone explain then why that car park at the > football ground is also very often full of british > gas vans early morning? Is it near a sorting office?

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:4YBWFCC17NsJ:www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/print%3FcatId%3D1400094%26mediaId%3D2500026+british+gas+royal+mail&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=23

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No according to this. > > Only two consultees - both internal to Southwark > Council. You're looking at the list of internal consultees, so that makes sense. Neighbours are listed elsewhere - if you read the page you're referring to, closely, there's a link there to neighbours.

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > From the Coucil documentation is looks like no > residents have been consulted. > > It says here they have http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/planningonline2/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeNeighbours&TheSystemkey=9526750

Plenty of places a bit further afield, Peckham Rye hotel, Tapas places by Harvester and up towards Brockley Curry... Chinese... Thai