Dogkennelhillbilly

How many people currently live in the pizza chain, bowling alley, cinema and car park? This is classic NIMBYBANOTE (not in my back yard but also not over there either) posting. "Oh no, don't let investors knock down the sad postindustrial sheds and replace them with housing and shops and dining and entertainment! Won't someone think of the Pizza Hut???"

If you're saying that development land should be nationalised, private parking on new developments banned, and only social housing should be built until median rent is beneath 25% of household median income in London, then for once we are completely agreed.

I would not describe the area as very gentrified, esp not the bit that was built 30 years ago. It's human scale, low rise flats and terraces mixed on cul de sacs for the most part, but it's not knee deep in Gail's and, candle shops and luxury butchers. The cluster of new blocks of flats near the new Decathlon and Canada Water tube is shinier- but tbh that's just what modern blocks of flats look like these days. Everything gets promoted by estate agents as luxury. More housing is good, whatever the type - dumping supply on the market always helps. I am sure there will be adequate provision for pizza restaurants and entertainment in the new mixed use development. And don't forget everyone's favourite Dulwich Library also has a ~free~ film club for adults: https://www.southwark.gov.uk/libraries/adults/library-activities-for-adults

"It seems TfL may need drivers to offend and generate income instead of complying with road rules." Wow, this is so unbelievably cynical of TfL. Drivers should totally band together and stick it up Khan's arse by not committing traffic offences on red routes. That'll show him!

Wake up, babe, a new LTN conspiracy theory just dropped

Oh no - that was a heritage Pizza Hut, wasn't it? Luckily there are 4 other pizza places within half a mile.

It's a really good concept. The one at Crystal Palace library has been around for a while so good to see Canada Water get in on the action too!

On the upside, the P13 bus is ready to whisk you directly to the Odeon in Streatham. And failing that there's the mighty Peckhamplex, the Ritzy, the East Dulwich or West Norwood Picturehouses, the one up on Crystal Palace, and even Whirled Cinema. We're doing okay for cinemas!

It's been so long under construction I'm surprised each house didn't come specced with a stable.

Or, you know, the original hysterical assumption that the workers are wasteful idiots who know nothing about their job was wrong.

The 80s or early 90s, I thought...?

These pipes fracture so frequently on Lordship Lane, and the South Circular, and East Dulwich Grove, because of the relentless volume and increasing weight of the vehicles driving over them.

Bit unambitious there, bud. If you look at a satellite map, if you demolished just one of the houses directly to the south of Gail's on Dulwich Village, you could get an access road into Dulwich Park. Then you'd just need to upgrade the surfacing to get a direct link to the Queen Margaret Gate and the South Circular. 👍👍👍

Fine by me. 🤷‍♂️ Online (which is to say here and Mr OneDulwich's blog) there is a small number of monomaniacs raging about closure of a side road 4 years ago, spreading increasingly weird conspiracy theories about Marxist-cyclist takeovers, and claiming to speak on behalf of a furious, ignored majority. None of that is reflected in the real world. The Tories were basically a single issue party against LTNs at the last local elections and they got pumped. The Tory Mayoral candidate for London pinned her whole campaign on being anti-ULEZ, anti-LTN and anti-woke, and she got pumped too. There is no sign in the real world that this supposed majority of people really upset about a road being closed exists. https://m.facebook.com/groups/ImperialMeas/

That is a theory - a very particular type of theory, in fact: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory Do you speak to your real life family and friends about your concerns that the London Cycling Campaign has taken over government and has deployed secret operatives to argue with you online? What do they think about it? 🦎 🦎 🦎

Yes. You probably heard about the Mayor's plan to pedestrianise Oxford St. This, and the associated press conference, was merely a diversionary tactic in The War On Motorists. At precisely 1415 today, squads of saboteurs spread our across London, from Acton to East Dulwich to Seven Sisters. Key arteries were ripped up and tank traps installed to prevent vehicle traffic. The purpose was to bring traffic to boiling point and make people realise that we can't go on this way. Unfortunately, the operation was a complete failure, as traffic in London is already at boiling point, and nobody noticed the difference.

Most conspiracy theorists think they're being tormented by the Freemasons or Secret Lizard People. I suppose it's only appropriate that the puppetmasters in such a low octane conspiracy theory as this should be...the London Cycling Campaign. 🦎 🦎 🦎

Sure - but that's your position whatever the merits of the West Dulwich proposals. This is a thread for talking about the West Dulwich changes specifically, and perhaps what OP would and would not like to see happen there.

So now the suggestion is that there are so many "lifelong Labour voters" that are so annoyed about the road closure that...they voted for Labour in greater numbers on a larger turnout than the election before? That just doesn't stack up either. It wasn't even a Labour ward before 2018... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulwich_Village_(ward)

lol!

Apparently there are 2000 locals that are highly motivated by this issue...but not enough to make a difference to their vote, while the party that went balls to the wall on opposing LTNs got a smaller share of the vote. That just doesn't stack up.

Source that there are 2000 of them and that they're local...? OneDulwich. 🤔 Odd that if there are so many of them and they are so opposed to the road closure that only 1000 of them bothered to vote for the Tory candidates who stood on an anti-LTN platform. The Tories' share of the vote fell from the previous election. This was in the ward that had the highest turnout in all of Greater London. When the rubber hits the road, opposition to a road closed 4 years ago doesn't actually seem to be motivating local voters (that actually verifiably exist) and it might actually be a vote loser. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulwich_Village_(ward)

I think that's very unfair. Southwark News (and @Herbie Russell Southwark News in particular) does a good job in covering local news stories, which isn't easy considering how little money is in local news publishing these days. I do think OneDulwich gets a soft ride and a disproportionate amount of coverage considering the tiny number of fanatics that share his views - but to be fair "most people indifferent to road closure 4 years ago" isn't much of a story. Equally, I don't see why Southwark News should not print a file photo that includes protestors' signs repurposing a white supremacist slogan.

Of course Southwark can't make the traffic changes that are the subject of this thread - they're in Lambeth.

Metropolitan Police have placed two signs at the junction of Gallery Rd/Burbage Rd/Dulwich Village calling for witnesses. I suppose if you were there at the time, it would be obvious what they are referring to, and if you weren't (like me), they don't need to hear from you! Monday 24 June 2024, 0800 hours. Contact 07789 809 693.