Dogkennelhillbilly

That is the assumption that any normal person would make upon coming across a smashed up abandoned car that's been driven on the wrong side of the road and flattened a traffic light, yes.

They're investigating reports that the sky is falling. So fat, they've all been unsubstantiated...

lol! 😂

Maybe you lot moaning about the social media activity of people you disagree with should actually go onto that social network and argue with them directly there? Banging on about it here is weird behaviour.

It may have been a reference to "cloned plates". The scam works like: 1) present fraudulent documents to dealer to obtain car on credit. 2) find a car that is identical or similar to yours, have plates made up with THEIR registration number, put those plates on your vehicle. 3) the finance company will realise it's not being paid or the transaction was a scam, but police etc won't be able to find the car because it has someone else's plates on it. 4) either drive around in the car until your luck runs out, or sell it to a mark for cash, or dismember it and resell the parts

You keep banging on about this Twitter account. Go and bicker with them on Twitter.

"Rush hour" was completely wrong on my part - as I was walking past, a police car was parking up and I assumed it had just happened. In fact, from the media reports, it looks like the car had been sitting abandoned on top of a dead traffic light for hours by that point! Apologies for any confusion, @alice.

Absolutely disgusting that you're willing to make such a kneejerk reaction. There are a many different reasons why things like this happen and often careless, dangerous driving or excess speed has nothing to do with it but it seems all too easy to jump to conclusions without ever bothering to establish the facts. Not every accident is due to bad driving. As much as it could have been careless or dangerous driving it could also have been caused by a driver having to take evasive action to avoid a pedestrian walking into the road whilst staring at their phone - you just don't know.

Don't worry about it - you're paying to fix everything regardless. https://x.com/DulwichRoads/status/1858822691517591745 That's a few thousand quid that could have been spent on social care but now will be spent replacing a traffic light. I bet the driver and their insurers appreciate your subsidy.

The scene this morning, as a driver smacked their BMW dead on into a traffic light outside a primary school during rush hour. 20mph zone, as you can tell... Traffic light destroyed, P4 service blocked in both directions, southbound traffic closed...

Proving my point there. 🎩

My irony-o-meter just exploded with that last comment.

Sometimes things are none of our business and it's vulgar to be a nosey parker.

Oh God not this shit again. 4 years you lot have been moaning about a side road being closed and nothing is ever good enough.

It's open later on Friday nights too, and is a nice little spot that serves alcohol

This is, of course, complete bullshit, as anyone who actually reads the OP can tell. https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/352811-unbelievable-destruction-west-norwood-marble-fountain-demolished/ You should get some kind of award for this comment. The crashes are too regular but also not regular? Brilliant. This is Olympic- standard sealioning. Guaranteed gold at Los Angeles 2028. 🥇

Absolutely. So far, we have had a load of toss about whether 30,000 is or isn't "tens of thousands", whether a weekly occurrence is regular or not, some rubbish about how it can't be careless driving if you didn't intend to hit anything, and at least three different attempts to resurrect unrelated arguments from other threads. It's all bad faith pedantry. Hard to know whether it's intended to distract from the substantive issue or just hot air.

= an acceptable pay off for having motor vehicles?

If I'm using the settings correctly, the crash map from the last 5 years at the West Norwood location in question is pretty striking. So many crash icons it almost obscures the junction...

"The term ‘road accident’ exemplifies society’s tolerance of road danger. Too many still do not hold drivers accountable for their actions, implying instead it was a matter of chance. By using the word ‘accident’ – society is saying that there is nothing that can be done about these deaths and injuries, and they are an acceptable pay off for having motor vehicles. Planes and trains do not have ‘accidents’ – they crash." https://www.roadpeace.org/working-for-change/crash-not-accident/

In 2021, the last period for which data is available, someone in Southwark was injured in a hit and run crash almost every day (351 per annum). The number of people injured in hit and run crashes in London doubled between 2011 and 2021. Every day, 2 of those injuries are fatal or serious. But maybe none of these hit and run drivers were careless or dangerous drivers either. Maybe they were all taking evasive action to avoid a pedestrian walking into the road whilst staring at their phone - you just don't know. https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-01/Hit and run the escalating crisis on London roads - January 2024 Caroline Russell Report.pdf

Annual outbreak - clocks going back + some teenage boy psychology that's beyond me. Police work hasn't stopped entirely. SNT organised more patrols and visible presence until the group responsible was arrested.

7 storeys + a service floor is the same as 8 storeys without a service floor. It overlooks a school playing field. No-one is complaining about the existing building or suggesting it has rUiNeD tHe NeIgHbOuRhOoD

...and this time last year the Safer Neighbourhood Team organised exactly that when there was the annual outbreak of this kind of robbery...