TonyQuinn

Further confirmation that something needs to be done. Was struggling to cross the road with my son in his pram and the only way I could get across was a taxi driver stopping - to the annoyance of all behind - on the uphill part of the road until there was room from those coming down. This cannot be the right way. The top bit of Forest Hill Road incorporates five sets of traffic at one stage with no traffic calming, zebras anything. Cars are coming onto it from Wood Vale, Brenchley Gardens, Honor Oak Park and Honor Oak Road, not to mention Forest Hill Road itself. Come on Lewisham, come on Southwark, get something sorted. Renata can you give us an update on whether anything is getting through to anyone?

Hardly, contractors seem to have done that bit quite efficiently.

I hope that the clear and present failings involved at this junction do not in any way deter those wishing to see improvements at the top of Forest Hill Road. For those who have not seen it, there's an equally long thread called "Complaining about traffic on Forest Hill Road" on the forum too.

No need for this thread to degenerate, like so many others on this forum. I know several people have made their concerns known to the folks in the opening post. If you haven't and would like to, please do.

Surely a question for our one and only Mr Barber?

I'm Spartacus

Can anyone from either council please explain to us, your electors, who actually is responsible.....I don't think anyone knows.

Another positive development paddygirl. Getting the two sites to work together can only help. I will post on SE23.com too relaying concerns and also details of people to contact.

Looks like this thread has won a few eyeballs and I'd be interested to know if anyone has made their representations known to the individuals named in the OP before I contact them again. Regards TQ

Going to become a home for five housing association flats.....there goes the neighbourhood! Joke if anyone gets offended!

Golly, took ten days to build, or did I mishear that!

henryb, pls make your views known to the individuals named in the opening post. That's the only way we can get the powers that be to do anything.

Growlybear, what I was hoping to achieve from this thread is to get parents at Fairlawn to complain to interested parties about the lack of crossing points on Forest Hill Road, and the crazy junction up top, which I'm sure is seen and used by kids at the school. The parking issue is another matter. The main problem is the crazy road design and the speed. Sorry, if I'm sounding like a broken record.

Ms Hamvas, really appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. I think most of the issues of concern have been raised and I am glad you made clear to individuals why I mentioned in OP why parents of kids at Fairlawn, if so inclined, may wish to badger both councils. And yes, I've lived where I have for years and for the life of me did not know that island in the middle of the road represented a crossing point. Just saw it as a futile effort to address the speed situation. I've never used it, it's as perilous as trying to cross anywhere else. BTW, a car parked on FHR was smashed up at the junction down by the Brenchley Gardens junction. No doubt, some speeding involved there too. Again, get those emails off to the names relayed up top and hopefully we, as the local community, can see our main thoroughfare get a little safer. It's never going to be quiet...it is a main road. But improvements cannot be beyond the wit of man or woman. And as a side point, where the hell are parents meant to drop their kids off at Francesca Cabrini. It's only a problem for half an hour twice a day. Don't think it's the priority in anyway.

I don't think the parents dropping off their kids at the school is the primary problem. The biggest problem is speed. That's what most local residents want addressed in my opinion. As I stated in opening post, there have been accidents, most recently when a car crashed into the school gates on a Saturday afternoon. No parents dropping off their kids then. Ms Hamvas, appreciate your involvement in this. Please keep us informed of any developments. Again, I believe the best way to get things done is to email officials named in opening thread. Also dbboy, unaware of any crossing at the school, otherwise I would use it all the time. And staggered by your suggestion that the problem with the traffic flow around the top of the road is how slowly it goes. Maybe during school drop offs/pick ups....certainly not the case any other time.

Appreciate it hoonaloona. Where can I sign this petition? And remember, send your concerns to named individuals up top. That seems to be the only way this can be sorted out. Regards

Unfortunately not, it was Thames Water fixing something a couple of weeks back. How much of an improvement was that? I urge you to make your views known. It'll only take a minute. Regards

Ralee, yes it is dangerous and really urge you just to send an email to the named individuals above.....that's the only way we're going to get anything sorted. Cheers.

How about Brockwell Park?

I agree it is an extremely difficult layout but I don't think it's beyond the power of the two councils to come up with something. Any ideas anyone has, please relay to the individuals I mentioned above.

Think it's important that we get more and more people complaining. Mr Tarplett has failed to respond to my concerns so I spoke to the council and got through to a Mr Keith Gasson, who was very sympathetic. Please email him too on keith.gasson@lewisham.gov.uk Also copy in tom.henry@lewisham.gov.uk Will edit my opening thread to add these names there too.

I have been led to believe that nothing will be done to make the traffic safer at the top of Forest Hill Road despite clear indications that the junction with Honor Oak Park and Honor Oak Road is a potential deathtrap. Only a couple of weeks ago I saw a car had crashed into the school gates at Francesca Cabrini. Luckily it was Saturday afternoon and not half 8 on a Monday morning. Because the school is in Southwark but the road is half in Lewisham, Lewisham Council I understand is not interested. Ideally, my contact at Southwark council says, is we get people from the Lewisham side of Forest Hill Road, or parents at Fairlawn School or any other interested party to make their concerns direct to. I think the speed and the insanity that is often visible on that road requires a response from Lewisham and Southwark councils, whether it be speed cameras, zebra crossing, traffic lights, new road design something. Please send emails to following Bill.Tarplett@lewisham.gov.uk keith.gasson@lewisham.gov.uk tom.henry@lewisham.gov.uk Simon.phillips@southwark.gov.uk is the representative at Southwark They are awaiting your comments. Thanks

I concur.....Nimby, many words came to mind when I read your comment. The only publishable ones are "You're a disgrace" LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > nimby Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Of course it is hearsay. > > > > Hearsay is information gathered by one person > from > > another person concerning some event, > condition, > > or thing of which the first person had no > direct > > experience. > > Gold star for knowing the proper definition of > hearsay. Fail for being an arse and sticking it in > this thread.

I appreciate you are doing your very best Ms Hamvas, but failure for a couple of councils to cooperate is just not good enough. Will the transport/road safety committees wheel that old excuse out when something bad happens, as I'm afraid, it inevitably will. I spoke to a teacher at the school about it and she said the school has made its views known on a number of occasions but nothing gets done. A for effort Ms Hamvas but an E for achievement. I urge you to raise this as a major concern to the powers that be. You will have all the appreciation of all residents round these merry parts. Renata Hamvas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Neilson, letters have gone out to residents. My > posting here is not official as such, I just > decided it would be useful to post it on her! I > shall raise your comments, about the issues > following the other works. I think it would be > quite difficlut to divest all the traffic, buses > etc. Yes Tony, I agree with you, the top of the > hill is problematic, It is quite tricky getting > something done about it as it sits on the borough > border and it requires economic and personnel > co-operation between two councils. > > > Renata

The water works at the top of the hill have been a boon. Please make that permanent. Fewer cars able to bomb down Forest Hill Road. Can you Ms Hamvas provide us an update on what is being planned up there. Sure you saw a car went straight into the gates of Francesca Cabrini School. Luckily, it was a Saturday and not 8.30 on a Monday morning.