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Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I.m not holding him to a higher standard. I don't > know 5% of the legislation passed by the UK > parliament since 1973 either ...okay. We can all agree that there will be no divergence of legislation to begin with, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that means it's not contentious and that there won't be more arguments in the future. Just look at the chlorinated chicken nonsense for how contentious relatively minor matters can become.

Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I suspect they are all pretty benign and helpful > and low level Adding more vague assumptions is pretty unhelpful when you end the post holding DulwichFox to a higher standard.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So is it unacceptable to the crowd here that > someone can vote on principle is sovereignty > without necessarily knowing all the detail of > EU/UK legislation? Surely many people voted remain > becuase 'it would better for the economy' without > being experts in economics or trade regulations? Most could have quite easily pointed you in the direction of the reports put out by "experts in economics" that estimated the impact on the economy. Of course it was derided as "Project Fear" but the information was readily available.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well they all laughed at Christopher Columbus , > didn't they. > I know what he was up against. No they didn't, as per usual you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about! From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus#Flat_Earth_mythology : Columbus is often credited with refuting a prevalent belief in a flat Earth. However, this legacy is a popular misconception. To the contrary, the spherical shape of the Earth had been known to scholars since antiquity, and was common knowledge among sailors. Coincidentally, the oldest surviving globe of the Earth, the Erdapfel, was made in 1492, just before Columbus's return to Europe. As such it contains no sign of the Americas and yet demonstrates the common belief in a spherical Earth.

citylover Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've lost count of the number of times politicians > have said in response to a complaint about this "We > can't do anything about x,y, z because it's decided > by the EU". It's true that the EU has been often been used as a convenient scapegoat, but I have similarly lost count of times where the politician is just blatantly lying. Here's a specific example: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-kipper-rant-eu-rules-uk-commission-speech-a9010436.html The press has also been guilty of spreading falsehoods regarding EU regulation, lots of examples here: https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wasn't voting FOR the Rules.. I was Voting to > get away from them. ...and you just admitted you still don't know what you were voting to get away from.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I do not know what those laws are or how they > affect us .... and that's the problem Well, I suppose the first step is admitting that your ignorance is the problem.

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DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Since then, if there has been a conflict between national law and European law the UK courts have to give priority to European law. Everybody in this thread understands that, the question you are unable or unwilling to engage with is which laws or conflicts specifically were unacceptable to you.

OLori Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Friday's, Saturday and Sundays for free After 2pm on Saturday and Sundays I believe.

Pollypops Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it is no longer fully yours to control. It never was. Fiat currency can easily be devalued by inflation, an equivalent fiscal policy to negative interest rates is printing more notes. How useful was "cold, hard cash" in 1922 Germany?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > that's because I was agreeing with you :) I worried that might be the case! :D

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chancellor Sajid Javid has wrapped the increased > investment commitment into a new set of fiscal > rules, which makes a clear distinction between > investment and consumption spending. I don't see that contradicts anything I said, but the fiscal rule I referenced is from 1997, it's not a new idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule_(fiscal_policy)

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't see it happening - I might be wrong and we > might about to be going on a spending spree - but > taxes then must go up. Not when you use the "golden rule" that increased borrowing is fine for infrastructure.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Labour think they are high and dry. Well, that's because they are: https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/helen-hayes/4510/election-results

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So the right wing press trying to paint Corbyn as > somehow being disloyal and out of sync with the UK > UK public simply isn't true... I took the criticism more to be about the lie. Dishonesty seems par for the course now but he's clearly not as good at it, you need to be far more vague if you're going to make nonsense up on the spot... perhaps he's following the "painting buses" route to distract from the antisemitism narrative?

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe you think you are somehow protected from any > of what may come but this is delusional at best. Looking at the proposed changes to higher rate tax from the two major parties, you could actually stand to gain significantly from a "right wing" government. Admittedly, that does require you believing what's in the manifestos. I am inclined to agree with you that most would be worse off as a result of these policies, which must mean there are huge swathes of the country voting against their best interest. I won't be voting for Christmas personally, but I will admit I'm starting to struggle to sympathise with the turkeys who are.

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I may of course change my mind again. But for now, > Labour reluctantly, gets my vote. I'm sure you'll have your own polling figures, but Labour only had a slim majority of 28,000 in 2017, so your intentions really are relevant. Please do keep us updated.

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In the Camberwell and Peckham constituency, the > Workers Revolutionary Party will be standing. If I > could flip constituencies to vote for them, I would. Dread to think what polling figures you're inventing to support that intention.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They then put the results of the poll through an > algorithm (how likely is a 20 year old to vote, > how likely is an 80 year old etc.). The > algorithms differ by polling organisation. True, but I still see that as a way of ensuring the sample is representative. In a way what you're doing is weighting the various demographics so that it reflects the "voting" population.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd be wary of polls this GE as it must be > difficult to allow for the nuances of tactical > voting, which you're going to see a lot of If you poll voting intention it includes tactical voting considerations, they don't ask "which party best aligns with your politics" after all. To get an estimate of the seats you just poll a sample from each constituency. The only hard bit is making sure your sample is representative.

joggy90 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Would a 50cc be enough for that kind of commute or > would I need something faster? Thanks! I would never recommend anything less than a 125. Neither are fast, but you will get a safer amount of acceleration from a 125 and a much better choice of second hand options. There is not much correlation between 50cc vehicles and responsible owners.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If the UK and the EU struck a zero tariff, zero > quota free-trade deal....how might that change > your view of brexit? It's difficult to answer when the deal you've set out is so vague, it focuses only on one aspect and glosses over all the detail that has hamstrung the process so far. I would be comfortable with a Norway style deal as an example, but the Overton window has shifted so far that is now seen as Brexit in name only by many. That said, as "a remainer" I voted to maintain the status quo, and am comfortable with the current compromises we make. We already trade with the EU on better terms than you described, how could it possibly change my view?

bobbsy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Go for a 250cc scooter (125 is big enough for > commuting but a pain for longer trips, especially > A roads or motorways). Worth noting this requires a license, so Mod 1 and 2 with the requisite training, which will cost more than a CBT and take a fair bit longer. I'm all for extra training, including the BikeSafe courses above, but a 125 is a good entry point. 250 seems a bad compromise, sure it'll hit motorway speeds but I wouldn't want to do longer trips on one, if you're going full A license I'd just go for one of the "My First 600" bikes.

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And that more educated people in all groups voted > remain The voting differences between age groups really narrow (from memory almost disappear but can't find the analysis now) once you take education level into account, younger generations have higher levels of educational attainment. EDIT: http://www.statsguy.co.uk/brexit-voting-and-education/

Suggesting you segregate on the basis of religion or send people away from their homes based on it is beneath any acceptable standard of debate. You've shown your true colours, I won't be engaging with your posts again.