Elphinstone's Army

If only we could. A friend last Winter brought us wool scarves from Scotland, hand loomed, thrilled, Scottish knitting, Aran and Fair Isle, Welsh Tapestry, is this all we will have left? Even Irish Linen is flax from the continent. As for hard industry, Rolls Royce, aircraft, ship building, foundries, even brickworks, all in decline or gone. This is the evolution of economics. Dyson is beneath contempt imho and now his son trails in his wake

dyslexics rule K.O.

meant to say - interesting post Malumbu - could you please quote the source - see what I did there ?!

In years to come new houses/apartment blocks will be built with this facility - underground storage and pumps or a means of capillary action for flushing toilets. In times of water shortage and the advent of water meters, this is an excellent solve. In France we use water sparingly, as it is metered, expensive and traditional. If I am alone I don?t always flush the toilet which I have en suite. Downstairs shower room I will use the washing up water to flush the toilet - or if rain is due I have two old buckets I leave outside to fill. We have French showers - run the water over skin, switch off, soap, shampoo whatever, lather all over, switch water on. Of course it is essential to set optimum temperature initially. We have also been known to run outside starkers in a sudden summer downpour and cavort about, this is glorious. No one can see, and if they could they would be screaming. Well this post diverged a little. We take it for granted that we turn on the tap/shower/washing machine and water flows - but do we need potable water to flush away waste?

NewWave Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Elphinstone's Army Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Jo R, > > > > Your grammar, spelling, syntax, slang : non > > specifity of a reply without offering > > full contact details whilst requesting those of > > the responding home owner, give a questionable > > impression. > > > And the use of the word "PAD" ugh!!!! that really > makes me want to heave. > its the sort of word naff estate agents use and > one I haven't seen used in any quality interiors > publication since the 70's. This was the slang : very Austin Powers - reading as though it has been badly translated, from what I know not.

Jo R, Your grammar, spelling, syntax, slang : non specifity of a reply without offering full contact details whilst requesting those of the responding home owner, give a questionable impression.

hello, it was really difficult selecting a heading - this one I hope will arrest the relevant parents attention. Do you have or know anyone who employs a black childminder, wears her hair in long multi plaits, dressed in black leggings and top, has a white toddler in a pushchair (only saw legs) a pre school white blond haired boy wearing sandals dark shorts and a red/blue? or black striped t shirt, and a pre school little boy looked Asian, possibly took the 78 from Peckham today, so could be Nunhead family, you need to PM me asap. I wish now I had taken pics and followed her home, this was 1.40 ish today.

at Kelmscott yesterday, in Jane?s bedroom (lined in Willow Bough) I recognised his voice. They did not linger, an amazing synchronisation

Oopnorthpup Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just to add another point of view, and with full > disclosure I am a resident of these flats, > although not ground floor - but I overlook the > garden in question. This hedgerow is teemimg with > insect and birdlife and for the first time in > years we wake to voracious birdsong. Please do not > quickly jump to condem and cut back, there is an > easily accessible and wide footpath on the other > side of the road so would not be inconvinient to > leave this wildlife oasis intact. vociferous - it isn?t a wildlife haven at all but overhanging branches/growth which impede the progress of pedestrians in all their glory and for whom the pavement is intended. Birds and bugs can move higher along the branches and learn to adapt.

There are no sizes displayed ?! when I asked why, I was told that ? we don?t do that but if you see something you like I can find out for you what size it is ? which seems a lengthy process

Why is this survey described in French ? is this a French initiative ?

thank you for replies - this noisy newcomer has bought the gf flat so tenancy rules will notapply. The Southwark rules apply to construction and not diy. I was online for an hour yesterday attempting to clarify rules. I do not understand people who move into a property ina closely packed residential area whenpeople want to enjoy their gardens and balconies in this heat, on a BH weekend and make noise and diy with total disregard for close neighbours. He was working until 9pm last night. Today it was banging hammering and drilling. It is monumentally selfish - no one would care during the week. A note through the door to say, we have just moved in there will benoise and disturbance, sorry ? would have been a warning. He has been inside today Ilona but with windows open of course. We have tried knocking but no response. I will tell him that every time (every few minutes) a door slams shut it reverberates through the house. It is so thick skinned, not neighbourly or considerate. I realise that noise is relative and those of you at the PRP end could also be suffering thank you for replies and suggestions

ww thank you for your reply - the flat is owned, in a road of rentals, perhaps this comes down to courtesy.

Is there a curfew/cut off point for power tooling, does anyone know? I really thought he would finish at 7 but no... also does this extend to Sunday? I am astonished that anyone moving into a ground floor flat with such close neighbours would be so disrespectful. We understand that work needs to be done, but this is tortuous. We have been round to remonstrate but apparently he has ear defenders and cannot hear or chooses not to.

Elphinstone's Army Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > stringvest is moving to the countryside > I am not suggesting for one moment that I am ok > with lads killing pigeons > Why would anyone exhort the OP to ignore me when > I am the only respondent taking a long term view > most people see pigeons as vermin and ok to kill > these are unpalatable facts of life and you are > rsponding as soft townies > > I fear for her and anyone who saw/heard Spike > MILLIGAN?s daughter describing how, when they were > children in the family car ready to be off on > holiday, a bird flew into the windscreen and broke > its neck I now realise that this statement is incomplete - how? why? anyway, they were in the car, packed ready to roll, the bird was dead, Spike who would have been driving, exited the car, went in the house, in his room, holiday ruined. He was so upset. Apparently he was a VSP and I wonder if stringvest, with your heightened sensibilities and acute compassion and what we would call in the north, being soft (not a pejorative term I assure you) and feel deeply for people, animals, abstract emotions, suffer in the same way? Do not be buying into the country idyll, as joeleg carefully described, things are not always as they seem, remember the song 'how you gonna keep 'em down on the farm, now that they've seen East Dulwich'

Elphinstone's Army Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jules-and-Boo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > there's a very big difference between the > natural > > pecking order of life, with animals hunting and > > people killing animals for fun. > > > > but you know that, which is probably why you're > > baiting us all with your inappropriate arguments > - > > inappropriate as they have no bearing to the > topic > > in point. > if this is aimed at me say so, rather than be > obscure, if it is I am not going to respond until > your argument achieves clarity > > > > it's a fact that people who maim and abuse > animals > > go on to abusing people - not all, but some. > > > > there is no argument at all in saying people > > should just go about their business and turn a > > blind eye when they have witnessed cruelty. in > > fact, it's irresponsible and that behaviour in > > itself should be condemned. in your opinion i have never said that stringvest should not have intervened, I have never questioned the morality of his action - what I have suggested is that his interference would have no impact on the sensibilities or thrill seeking motives of the youths, indulging in a Logans Run for pigeons, perceived as stupid, greedy and disposable vermin. My ability to assess and inhabit their peculiar mental mindset does not preclude my own distaste for such activities, and if you are looking to pin the tail on the donkey, you have selected the wrong candidate here. stringvest has stated his case also, thanked, acknowledged, mused, and it is about time that all would be warriors followed his good example.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > there's a very big difference between the natural > pecking order of life, with animals hunting and > people killing animals for fun. > > but you know that, which is probably why you're > baiting us all with your inappropriate arguments - > inappropriate as they have no bearing to the topic > in point. if this is aimed at me say so, rather than be obscure, if it is I am not going to respond until your argument achieves clarity > > it's a fact that people who maim and abuse animals > go on to abusing people - not all, but some. > > there is no argument at all in saying people > should just go about their business and turn a > blind eye when they have witnessed cruelty. in > fact, it's irresponsible and that behaviour in > itself should be condemned.

hpsaucey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ignore Elphonstone?s army. > > Well done for challenging their cruel behaviour! > Dangerous too, > > HP do not ever PM me again ever and call me a HO, : no one puts Elphin in a corner - ergo - my opinion, the value of which is crucial to my wellbeing, is of as much value as anyone else's, and you should whole heartedly, publicly, apologise

civilservant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hi, Elphinstone's Army, life in the countryside IS > red in tooth and claw and life in town can be as > well > > I understand that you're not condoning any of the > practices that you describe > > but stringvest posted about some completely > gratuitous cruelty, and I am sure you agree that > there was absolutely no reason for these kids to > do what they were doing, and especially not for > fun > > you might feel powerless to stop awful things > happening around you, but that doesn't mean that > everyone should 'myob' - that's the start of a > very slippery slope, and who knows where it ends? hello thank you for your response : no it isn't part of a slippery slope at all (for the OP) it is a form of protectionism - why should he be the only respondent to such mindless practice - answer - because he is the only one who cares - answer however - as I stated - he is not going to change anything, the banality of their activity, their 'mindset' their brutal satisfaction - the only way to deal with this unpleasant scenario is to remove oneself from it.

stringvest is moving to the countryside I am not suggesting for one moment that I am ok with lads killing pigeons Why would anyone exhort the OP to ignore me when I am the only respondent taking a long term view most people see pigeons as vermin and ok to kill these are unpalatable facts of life and you are rsponding as soft townies I fear for her and anyone who saw/heard Spike MILLIGAN?s daughter describing how, when they were children in the family car ready to be off on holiday, a bird flew into the windscreen and broke its neck

stringvest Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was on business in Holborn, by the tube. I was > approached THREE times by beggars, pretending to > be "all alone in country to go to job" and wanting > 5 pounds for their oyster card. I knew they were > scamming and offered to take one to the shop to > put money on the card, but NO! they just wanted > the money "just two pounds would be ok". I told > 1st one to go away, 2nd one to go away, was > avoided by 3rd one who had seen second one ... > then flipping first one comes back and was very > persistent, pleading in a shrill voice with > praying hands. They all went off when I said I > would call the police. They all have blue back > packs so can see each other and are NOT alone. > > youths: I was on different business somewhere > else! Tried to get along pavement but couldn't for > gang of youths, bikes chucked on pavement outside > the chicken shop. I asked several times to get > past, but they were too busy laughing and > shouting. I walked back further and crossed over, > so that I could pass them without being in the > road. THEN I SAW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. Chucking > chips and chicken in the road to a flock of > pigeons and ROARING with laughter as they were > maimed and killed. Traffic was trying to avoid the > flock etc. People at the bus stop were distressed > and exclaiming, but NOT DOING ANYTHING. After the > fourth was squashed and one flailing in the kerb, > I stepped in. I picked up the pigeon with its neck > broken and innards hanging out and headed for the > youths. DO YOU WANT THIS FOR YOUR MUM? DO YOU WANT > THIS WITH YOUR CHIPS? LOOK WHAT YOU DID. > "EUUUUGHHH They were all screeching, you'll get > rabies you nasty bit**" "eff off" ... YOU ARE THE > NASTY ONES, WICKED AND CRUEL I said. They got > mouthy and wouldn't leave so I called the police. > I also despatched the pigeon flapping in the kerb > and put them in the bin. Police have better things > to do, but if kids aged 10-15 think this cruelty > is REALLY FUNNY and acceptable, what is next for > them KITTENS, PUPPIES .....??? > > I think PIGEONS are protected under the Wildlife > and countryside act and can only be killed by > licensed pest control etc. Regards. If this is how you are with pigeons in the road, what are you going to be like living in the country, with sounds of slaughter through the night, are you going to be running outside with a lantern and a stern expression? particularly when the hunt passes your door, dogs in a box on an open truck, beagles not always used unless it's a drag hunt, and oops, a fox, well dogs will be dogs ...buzzards and other birds of prey flapping past your window with baby bunnies wriggling, fixed in their claws, red kites swooping into your garden to attack, maim, carry away kittens, cats, small pet rodents, rats, mice and voles, pigeons and/or starlings in your loft, or crows as we had, sound like buffalo at 5 in the morning, making nests, then abandoning them and smelly dead birds unreachable, or the ganging up on injured, small, wounded birds by others, pecking them till they are bloody and dead, a bedraggled fox attempting to leap your fence with hounds pulling him back down and tearing him apart, crazy rabbits in the road with myxomatosis which we are assured by DEFRA does not exist any more, badgers hunted late at night, flickering lights and shouts, neighbours with Jack Russell terriers do not keep them because they are cute, roadkill, including cats, lambs with their eyes pecked out, Crows and foxes wait until the lambs are actually being born, to make their kill (did you know this), wayward dogs shot, legally by the farmer, dragged to and dumped at the side of the road, weaned/weaning calves calling their mothers who are bellowing in distress for them, never to see, lick or feed them again, milk needed for humans, bullocks for the abattoir, heifers to repeat the process, the lorry pulling out of the local farm, crammed with bewildered sheep, cattle, goats, where do you think they are going - on their holidays? the monotonous, dreary call sound of wood pigeons, will remind you nevertheless of how you head on tackled moronic youths to teach them a lesson they will never forget, because your distaste and dismay and involvement will go down a storm in the country, and don't forget that horses do not use a neat litter tray. Livestock attracts flies, blue and green bottles, blowflies big as a baby's fist, fruit attracts wasps aplenty, horseflies and mosquitos/midges abound. As your sensibilities are so heightened, you are soft hearted and further distressed yourself by attempting to call out callow youths who were having fun seeing helpless fluttering pigeons vermin or not, in death throes, it's probably better if you hurry away, and ignore beggars for the same reason and seriously consider how life in the country is no idyll believe me, for someone of your sensitivity, protect yourself better, as you will not become immune, neither will you be able to affect changes.

It's probably a good thing you don't live in rural France - they just shoot rooftop pigeons and put them in the pot, and other unspeakable things the French do/eat would have you fainting. Of course they were cruel, but why would you pick up a pigeon and confront them in this way, you are not going to change anything, walk away and myob, pigeons are vermin, there is no reason to believe these daft lads will torture puppies and kittens, you are over reacting. Persistent beggars are part of life, do you not venture near the Coop on LL? or anywhere in town, they are everywhere not always obvious, and not confined to London. There again you overinvolved, offering to take the beggar to 'put money on his card' - you concerned yourself and other people's actions disappointed you.

Word on the street 3 years ago was that Londis would close to enable Costa Coffee, so I suppose that was the planning permission du jour. Apart from the occasional bottle of wine, we never used it as a corner shop, far too expensive and limited. We have other similar stores along LL. Can we take 5 minutes to suggest it's replacement? Please, be uninhibited, we are open to fantasy or pragmatism ...

What gender are you? Either way you need to seriously edit your posts. Besides which, some of us like clutter and don't really want a complete stranger's hands in our drawers. Thanks all the same.

It all looks disgusting. You are right JandB, an opportunity lost. This is vegan food made in their own home kitchen. M&S, Sainsbury, etc., are way behind this new eating philosophy, Lordship Lane needs a dedicated vegan restaurant and takeaway.