fruityloops

can't say I've ever not gone somewhere because of one of these scores... If the food tastes good, then that's what counts.

That video... The new graves just look tragic. Who would want to be buried in a place like that, knowing what was there before, both the woods, and the poor (literally) people's graves. It is deeply upsetting to see.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > taper Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > It can only be used for a > > significant number of future burials if what is > > there now is very significantly altered. The > > question is whether this in the public interest. > > > Southwark have concluded it is. I don't agree, > on > > the scale currently intended. > > > As Renata has said above, whatever is done there > will never please everybody. > > There are many factors to be considered, and a > compromise has to be reached. > > It seems to me that the council has done their > best to take issues relating to wildlife into > consideration, for example, but for some people > nothing short of leaving everything as it is - > with all the maintenance issues that entails for > the future, quite apart from the lack of burial > space - will do. > > There is also the issue of the contaminated > ground. a compromise.... this is so far from a compromise it's untrue..

I don't use it as a place to quietly remember my loved ones, but I am sure that if I did, then I would much sooner have visited the overgrown tree part of the cemetery than the sterile and clinical designs being put forward by the council, and as a local resident (I can see the former woods from my bedroom window) it deeply saddens me to see what devastation has already taken place. It looks terrible, as it is, and terrible as it is planned.

Nah. Don't bother with this...

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Some very classy people on here nowadays." > > Yeah, you're one of them. Your passive-aggressive > attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you is > unpleasant, and your conviction that others are > fully in support of what you see as a corrupt > council if they don't see it your way is even more > so. You're just as guilty of playing the player, > you just dress it up nicely to make it look > otherwise. > > And there aren't lots of places and methods where > people can get buried, at least not in London. > Suitable land for that purpose is at a premium; > I'd be interested to read your solutions - so far > I can't see any from you. Burn people. Can scatter the ashes in the woods then. No rental, and can just keep piling them up.

Loz Wrote: > > Absolutely. what a tragic piece of work you are Loz

Got chucked out for going in in mah birthday suit. What is the world coming to nowadays..

nowt wrong with cheesegrater. The other 2 are crud.

Poor you. For owning a Dell that is..

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rupert jones Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I must be walking round another Ed. > > > > E.g where would you put them on Shawbury Road, > > sylvester Road, Melbourne Grove. East Dulwich > > Grove etc > > Literally spend 30 seconds on Google Street View > and you'll find that all of these streets have > stretches which are not directly overlooked by > houses. For example: > > Shawbury Rd: > > 86,3a,75y,31.83h,69.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szXbZyG > YmQSaY7eEasQVw7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 > > Sylvester Road: > > 26,3a,75y,345.96h,54.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVfRku > u-mahr1YZRgFbl4NQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 > > Melbourne Grove: > > 68,3a,75y,307.64h,71.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svtiIg > gSDLqs2hZ-2krHXoA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 > > But really, one could equally complain about > having to overlook cars/ vans etc. The only > difference is that we're used to the latter and > these hangers are new. These all look like great positions for bike Hangars.

This thread is jokes. Get over yourselves you daft backwards people. Accept the future, or at least come to terms with it. It's not all bad..

If you are not a cyclist would you want one of these parked right outside your front door. Will they be sited away from residential front doors? I would not like one right outside my house. ---- In answer to your question (1) yes I'm a cyclist (2) no I certainly wouldn't want to look out of my window onto that. ---- Except the having it in front of your house doesn't guarantee you access to it. Personally, I wouldn't want one directly in front of my house. I'm glad there are people who do though as hopefully the council will take individual preference into consideration when selecting the precise location. ---- Just a handful of the examples of NIMBYism on this thread.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its hardly NIMBY to say you wouldn't want one in > front of your house. I wouldn't want a big tree > in front of my house either but equally I wouldn't > campaign to stop it going forward. Honestly, its > an obvious enough point that the council have > already clearly thought about citing them in a way > that makes sense away from front doors. What > exactly is your problem? > > > NIFOMH doesn't quite roll of the tongue as well.

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Floops, > Inevitable on a local forum I'd gave thought. Aye. Keano77 - forgot to add home owner to that list of car owner and non-cyclist. First mate - yep, a shame though when it could be filled with the positive things that are going on in the area.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's good the hear Sue. I've noticed they tend > to be at the side of end of terraced properties so > they aren't in front of any individuals house. I > think that's a smart approach and was going to > suggest that. I think its a great idea but I > equally think there are a lot of people who while > supporting the scheme in general wouldn't want it > directly in front of their own house. > > NIMBY's - this forum is full of them. Stick one right in front of my front door. I'd be happy to take it (car owner - and not currently a cyclist).

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But if you > care to read many posts here you will find numbers > of people saddened by any proposed changes - to > road lay-outs, to shops, to building heights etc. > etc.. I see people that like having a good moan about anything new. I understand the permitted room size comment - I live with an architect. It means the commodity of our generation is space, not possessions. Therefore making a hangar on a road, where many users do not even own cars a fantastic idea, that I can't understand why any progressive thinker cannot get behind.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's like living 20 years in the past round here > sometimes... And that is not, necessarily, a bad > thing. Ask anyone in Syria. Comparison of ED to Syria... brilliant.

I can't believe that whether this is a good thing is even a topic for discussion.. It's like living 20 years in the past round here sometimes...

anything that would encourage people to ditch cars in zone 2 and replace with bikes has to be a good thing. LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Except the having it in front of your house > doesn't guarantee you access to it. Personally, I > wouldn't want one directly in front of my house. > I'm glad there are people who do though as > hopefully the council will take individual > preference into consideration when selecting the > precise location. > > fruityloops Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > edhistory Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > How will estate agents photograph the > property > > > frontage? > > > > > > They could use it as a selling point of the > house. > > Small flat, with no bike storage, or small > flat > > with bike hangar outside. Easy choice

edhistory Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How will estate agents photograph the property > frontage? They could use it as a selling point of the house. Small flat, with no bike storage, or small flat with bike hangar outside. Easy choice

Yep. Great idea.

I actually live on Melbourne Grove but I park in saino's each morning before my daily commute from ED station to London Bridge. However on Tuesday nights I find it can take a terrible amount of time to get out of the car park thanks to some jerk wheeling his vibraphone across the crossing having been ejected from the terraces of champion hill for making too much of a din. Something needs to be done.

If I had driven & had been a DHFC supporter I'd have found the OP's house and parked across their drive rather than in Sainsbury's. Far more convenient I heard.