To mattham After reading your post: 'Ultimately though, freedom is a small (temporary?) price to pay for the rewards children bring. I don't for a second think those without children lead less fulfilling lives, but having kids certainly brings an extra dimension to life. And it makes you realise, perhaps for the first time, how much you were loved as a child.' I can positively say you sound ghastly too. Not everyone had a happy childhood and freedom is very important. A