Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If someone can borrow rather than buy then do so... Nine times out of ten I would agree, Nigello. But it sounds like the OP might be public-spirited enough to be considering voluntary litter-picking on a more regular basis, in which case it might be unnecessarily complicated to put out a request on the EDF, or elsewhere, every time. Thanks for teaching me a new word though - 'midden'!