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Well that's a coordination issue then and nothing to do with safer streets. Roads close temporarily all the time. first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Withering sarcasm is hardly a helpful response to > valid questions. There are recent instances where > emergency services were not properly consulted on > road closures, with severe consequences. This may > be of little concern to you, but for others it is > different. > > redpost Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > yes, if only someone would invent a little > black > > box that gave you directions to your > destination. > > Or perhaps someone could write an app? > > > > Someone could also write a special app for > > multi-drop/visits that care workers and > delivery > > drivers use that optimises your route over a > large > > number of stops. > > > > And it would be a really good idea if emergency > > services had a 'special' black box reflecting > > recent and temporary road closures, they could > > also be fitted with sirens and flashing lights > to > > expedite their path to an incident! > > > > > > > > first mate Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Appreciate this was a typo but ?care? > journeys > > are > > > rather to the point. Those with caring duties > > do > > > need to be able to move around and may well > be > > > unable to cycle or walk. I wonder what the > > impact > > > of these closures will have on them? > > > > > > It is also unclear what impact this will have > > on > > > emergency services. James McAsh?s extremely > > vague > > > answer to that question indicates this was > > > possibly not addressed as it should be. > > > > > > What hard data do we really have on what > > journeys > > > are made by whom, for what reason and when, > > using > > > a car? One minute we are told that the > traffic > > > issue is the result of those driving through, > > not > > > residents. Now it all seems to be about > > residents > > > jumping into their cars for a latte just down > > the > > > road. It is odd how the emphasis has suddenly > > > shifted.

yes, if only someone would invent a little black box that gave you directions to your destination. Or perhaps someone could write an app? Someone could also write a special app for multi-drop/visits that care workers and delivery drivers use that optimises your route over a large number of stops. And it would be a really good idea if emergency services had a 'special' black box reflecting recent and temporary road closures, they could also be fitted with sirens and flashing lights to expedite their path to an incident! first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Appreciate this was a typo but ?care? journeys are > rather to the point. Those with caring duties do > need to be able to move around and may well be > unable to cycle or walk. I wonder what the impact > of these closures will have on them? > > It is also unclear what impact this will have on > emergency services. James McAsh?s extremely vague > answer to that question indicates this was > possibly not addressed as it should be. > > What hard data do we really have on what journeys > are made by whom, for what reason and when, using > a car? One minute we are told that the traffic > issue is the result of those driving through, not > residents. Now it all seems to be about residents > jumping into their cars for a latte just down the > road. It is odd how the emphasis has suddenly > shifted.

You spent your time photoshopping that? if so, that's really quite sad TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have a wild theory how all of this has > happened. > > After a council meeting, the leaders had a few > beverages and held a secret cinema event where > they watched a film similar to the movie poster > below. > > > > After a few more drinks they started to believe > and devise plans to save us all and before we knew > it the monstrous "Healthy Streets" baby was born > screaming and kicking. > > Of course it's just a wild theory with no basis in > reality but looking at the statistics quoted by > the council, reality obviously doesn't matter!

Those figures are national averages and will include the many public schools in rural areas where pollution is less of a problem. This area is over-represented with public schools, the roads are busy and therefore the public schools generate a very significant amount of traffic and pollution. seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The fact that we have the Dulwich Estate and the > Foundation schools here means that we all enjoy > the environs as opposed to living in a total > concrete hell hole. (especially during the > lockdown when the playing field was open- I notice > that Southwark didn't open up its playing fields > on the South Circular) > > Anyway, I'm sure we are all well aware of the > extra volume of traffic at 'school run' time and > try to avoid it....and hardly any of it will be > due to private schools as only 7% of British > children are privately educated and 1% of those > are boarding - so only 6% of British > schoolchildren travel on a daily basis to and from > school and quite a few use public transport as I > have seen in Dulwich alone.

Why would it have a negative impact? you can't park on rye lane anyway, although quite a lot ignore this and therefore endanger cyclists and pedestrians plus delay buses. There is parking at morrisons, the back of ASDA and quite a few pay and displays less than 100m away. People will probably linger and shop longer now there is less traffic. Siduhe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why is Rye Lane blockaded with utilitarian posts > and blocks while Court Lane has wooden planters ? > > I thought exactly the same when I cycled down it > this morning. Part of the reason appears to be > that there is a need to allow construction traffic > in (so one of the barriers is a movable > construction type barrier), with the result that > all the delivery vans are just moving it out the > way and driving down to do deliveries. They will > all be on camera but don't appear to care. > > However, it was very noticeable how much quieter > the shops on Rye Lane are than normal. Obviously > you can't reach a conclusion on a few days > observation, but if this keeps up, the road > closure will have a massive impact on the > profitability of those shops. As a cyclist it's > great, but there's a much bigger picture here.

Chunx Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And how will car reliant disbled peopke get > around. > Why cant every one use the pavement on the left > side of the road to walk on? Like cars drive on > left. Are you suggesting that pavements become one-way in order to avoid allocate some road space to pedestrians?

average speed cameras would negate the need for speed bumps on court lane (and the surrounding roads), the bus could thus be routed this way avoiding the south circular

What stuff and nonsense How about the liberty of pedestrians, children and cyclists to go around without breathing in pollution and having their life expectancy cut down? You can afford to run a car, so what's the problem with paying to park it.

They will never remove LEDs to go back to sodium lamps. Councils are saving serious money as LEDs need far less maintenance (bulb changes, burnt out ballasts etc) and are many times more efficient (saving electricity - which they DO pay for).

If you're genuinely disabled then you will get a blue badge, I know of several relatives who have obtained one for their genuine disabilities. If you're just lazy then yes they are very difficult to get.

They don't operate the same as any other school though do they, most state school places are allocated by distance allowing children to walk and cycle to school. Private school parents are much wealthier than average, live much further away because of selection - and consequently much more likely to drive (or have nanny drive) kids to school long distances in a heavy SUV.

Six fifty for a pint in a muddy field with a stinky portaloo toilet - no thanks

has no one been out in the west end lately? they're charging west end restaurant prices for a chain pub meal, this is seriously taking the mickey. Only in the hermetic bubble of east dulwich would these prices be called reasonable. for those who read private eye, EI group are frequently in the back pages mainly for bankrupting and squeezing every last penny out of their poor tenants

Nice find which nails it on the head, because so few people will subscribe for the service then the running costs of the scheme will be shared by fewer subscribers. The running costs must be quite considerable: staff to answer queries, stickers, website, processing payments etc etc. Expect the cost to rise to ?60+ as charged by other boroughs and see even more people drop out and stick the waste at the bottom of the green bin. It's simply more economic overall to provide this service funded from council tax (as may be mandatory in 2024 anyway) - just stick a quid or two on council tax. The nasty side-effect is that recycling rates drop - london already has some of the worst rates in the country. rollflick Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Defra, the bit of the government that covers waste > policy, has just consulted on a new national > approach to dealing with waste. Rather than > explain Southwark's plans for garden waste, it > raises fundamental questions about them: see > pp26-31 in > https://consult.defra.gov.uk/environmental-quality > /consultation-on-consistency-in-household-and-busi > n/ > > > First Defra suggests that "each household should > be supplied with a fortnightly collection service > for garden waste and that this service should be > free of charge". Surely it's crazy for Southwark > go through the hassle of introducing garden waste > charges if the government is about to require it > NOT to charge?!? > > "Given the dispersal of subscribers across an > authority, collection services for charged > collections may be more inefficient and represent > a higher cost per household serviced than when > there is high participation in a free service. > This is because vehicles might have further to > travel between pickups and collect less material > overall. In addition, monitoring of garden waste > capture rates across the various disposal and > recycling routes suggests that following the > introduction of charging, large proportions of > garden waste may be entering the residual waste > stream. > ... Our estimates are that if every householder > with a garden had access to a free garden waste > collection service then overall household > recycling rates would increase by 6% points > compared to their current levels, reducing the > risk of this material ending up in landfill." > While that 6% figure is likely to be less in an > inner London borough with many flats, there's > still likely to be a net negative impact on the > borough's recycling rate, which has been > stagnating recently. > > > Second on food waste: "We therefore propose to > require that from 2023, all local authorities > offer all households separate weekly food waste > collection. Generally food waste should be > presented separately from garden waste, so that > the food waste can ideally be sent to anaerobic > digestion" (AD) > > This is suggested because: > "When collected with garden waste, food waste > cannot be sent to AD and is sent to in-vessel > composting. Unlike AD, in-vessel composting does > not produce biofuel for energy generation and is a > comparatively more expensive waste treatment > option. On the other hand, mixed food and garden > waste collections can be more convenient as it > does not require separate arrangements for > collection of food and garden waste... > Technologies like in-vessel composting (IVC) and > mechanical biological treatment (MBT) require > mixed organic feedstocks with some amount of food > waste to work optimally, and it is possible that > separate collection of food waste may compromise > the viability of these technologies....Where > practicable, we would expect authorities that > normally use IVC treatment for mixed food and > garden waste to allow householders to present food > waste separately and then to have this mixed with > garden waste at kerbside, transfer station or > treatment facility to meet long term contractual > commitments to in-vessel composting facilities" > > Are separate collections really practical for the > whole borough though? > Southwark could simply collect food waste > separately (e.g.flats in north of borough) from > those areas where most homes have gardens, hence > combined garden & food waste (e.g. ED and further > south). Southwark is locked into a waste contract > to 2033 with Veolia. The hassle and cost > (financial and also environmental) of separate > collection of garden & food waste, remixing the > contents of our bins outside our front doors etc. > is unlikely to outweigh the benefits, especially > if food waste can be reduced through behaviour > change campaigns. So surely worth waiting what the > govt decides, rather than sending out lots of > separate food caddies? > > All in all seems Southwark's waste & cleansing > department has made an almighty mess! Who will > clear things up?

Hide it in the bottom of your green bin, that's what 99.5% of people are going to do and hit our abysmal recycling rates even further.

Well the private schools need to adopt a no car dropoff policy unless they can provide adequate parking of their own (which they can't), but that would involve them biasing admissions to the locality. Quentin from clapham simply must be dropped off and picked up in the au pairs land rover darling.

The silent majority who want controlled parking (54%) have voiced their opinion, despite all the bleating on this forum most people approve of it.

I'm just amazed that people drive to the park on a regular basis. We have so many different green spaces spread out and no-one is more than half a mile from a decent sized green space or park. This is SE london not lower manhattan, check out google maps at low zoom, there is green space literally everywhere.

These parking charges are great news for those of us who don't drive and have children.

Pure fantasy, would require a whole new bunch of rolling stock and signal upgrades.

I had the same issue with vibrations from the speed bumps outside my house. The solution is some serious bracing of the floor joists and coupling them to the wall structure. Together with triple glazed acoustic glass windows, my front rooms are near silent and vibration free.

great idea, lets have 3 times the current number of resurfacing crews/plant and then pay them to be idle term time, then it can be done in school hols only! zoester Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SebsC Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Living on Upland Road, it would have been nice > to > > have been informed beforehand that the top of > the > > road would be closed to traffic. Also, no signs > to > > tell drivers of this on Upland road. > > > Completely agree, we had a nightmare getting back > into our flat yesterday afternoon after having > been out for the day. They should absolutely be > doing this in the school holidays not when there > is already a massive traffic issue owing to school > traffic and especially on upland road during > school drop off and pick up the parking is dire as > is

Figured so, M&S delivery artic was parked outside the other day on the crossing zig-zags mid-morning

make a complaint to southwark and threaten to escalate to the local authority ombudsman, they pulled me in for an interview under caution when my builders went over by 10mins to 18:10 - disgraceful if the site was unsafe, they shouldn't have started work in the first place