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EDG, Grove vale, village way, dulwich village they are the 2 x rubber tubes with a box, so far it look like they haven't been vandalised they were also there weeks ago, but of course those got vandalised when someone got "frustrated"

You were consulted when you voted for this government: Making traffic regulation orders during coronavirus (COVID-19): https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/making-traffic-regulation-orders-during-coronavirus-covid-19 Yes, you may disagree, but the government has made these emergency orders for the purposes of the GREATER GOOD specifically: a) reduce load on public transport by making walking and cycling easier b) increase social distancing with larger pedestrian areas c) get people to lose weight dougiefreeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > stecoward101 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 2 Points here > > > > 1. 'Who says we want a rat run?' If you had > been > > consulted on that question would you have said > > yes. > > > > 2. The business' don't want a consultation. If > you > > look at the posters in their windows there is > not > > a single word about consultation. They want the > > planters removed. > > > > Can I again reiterate Cars can still access the > > shops but now only one way. > > > > Thanks for reading. > > Just in response to your second point. > In order to have a properly consulted conversation > about this, the planters need to first be removed > - they should never have been installed without a > proper consultation in the first place and so you > can understand why businesses are prioritising > using their voice to lobby first for the reversal > of these measures. > > It may of course, after consultation, turn out > that the overwhelming majority are in favour (I > doubt it) and then the planters can be installed > with the backing of a proper democratic process. > But since there has been no such democratic > process as of yet they really should be removed > until the council set one up. > > Would you be in favour of parliament deciding on a > prime minister and then asking the public > afterwards to vote on whether they approve or not?

Scenario one: drive to sainsburys, do the shop back in car, stop off at the layby outside marks and sparks to pick up some percy pigs (even though parking not allowed here) drive round the corner and park in melborne grove for bi-weekly colonic irrigation appt get back in car and swear at a cyclist on way home Scenario two: drive to sainsburys do the shop walk to marks walk to business on melborne grove perhaps stop for a coffee if you have time walk back to car (you've got 3h free parking) It's not difficult is it??

Despite what people are saying/ranting on this forum, there are traffic measurement devices in place on all affected roads. I checked on my bike yesterday. Pollution monitoring is expensive, the pollution levels can be extrapolated from the traffic volumes to a good enough degree and used in the modelling. Modern cars have stop-start devices to kill the engine when staionary, hybrids of course emit zero pollution when stationary. The ULEZ in one years time will see most cars being euro 4 (petrol) or euro 6 (diesel), I don't think a stop-start system is mandated for these euro emission standards, but most modern cars (post 2015) have stop-start as it does help the manufacturer meet the euro rating. The relationship between idling and pollution is going to be complex. If road congestion is low, then motorists will tend to drive faster and brake more ... increasing the pollution emitted for a given distance driven. betternowthanthen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > With all this terrible traffic, I bet Southwark > did not monitor air pollution/traffic levels > before the barriers were installed, and sure won't > after the installation, and a reason would be that > air pollution and traffic would be x2 or x3 worse > in that area, such it takes at least x2 to get to > A-B using those very useful and load baring roads!

(yorkshire accent) bah that's nothing! you should have been here during victorian times, now that was REAL pollution, you were literally breathing liquid coal tar RichH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > stecoward101 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Did you not notice the difference during the > lockdown you could actually take a deep breath in > without the taste > > of burning fuel. > > > > :)) What utterly hysterical sensationalism. Try > looking at what air quality was like in the > 1950's. Now THAT was pollution.

I can assure you that most cyclists don't enjoy being super wary to avoid being car doored, pedestrians crossing between standing traffic and a van driver doing a u turn and not paying proper attention because they are "frustrated".

One way usually means excessive speeds Then they would have to put speed bumps down Which would mean even more pollution as cars accelerate to 30/40 for a few seconds, brake sharply for the bump wasting the momentum they've burned fuel for and shedding loads of brake lining particulates before accelerating again for the next bump

I'm about to install the police approved one, from the single track forum the 1.2mm steel looks fairly easily prised with a long wrecking bar or two. I'd expect something a bit heavier grade for ?400. When it arrives, i'll consider upgrading it by lining it with 18mm hardwood ply drilled and screwed on from outside.

Trunk roads and their bus lanes are entirely TFL's domain, nothing to do with southwark. If you don't like then don't vote for the mayor. But this is fantastic news! More reliable bus journeys and easier cycling. More rabid motorist comments on EDF. More planters etc. What's not to like?

Spartacus, perhaps you should live up to your name and start one?

Don't get me started on everyone active which has the southwark residents free swim and gym bolted on somehow in some frankenstein web site way. Me and my son managed to get cards last year, but I've forgotten how we did it and its not logical on how to renew them.

I had the same problem with chrome, firefox works fine. The website is stone age stuff, the last time I had to change browsers to access a site correctly was about 10y ago. I work in IT also.

The ultimate and equitable solution is road pricing based on time of day, surrounding population density and vehicle emissions, but no government has the balls to do it (yet).

If the manufacturers truly cared they would come up with stronger security on the remote fobs, our mobile phones and bluetooth have strong encryption and key management so it's not rocket salad.

Seems obvious to me, since it's been proved conclusively that new roads and extra road capacity fill up very quickly and congestion soon returns, that the opposite must also be true.

If you're living in a victorian house then I wouldn't worry about cracks at all. The house has been there for >100 years so why would there suddenly be a problem now? unless something has radically changed in the surrounding ground environment. The ground shrinks and expands depending on the seasons and the long-term rainfall/groundwater etc. Planting a tree may take up water and cause the ground to shrink, perhaps causing problems. Removing a tree may cause more water to stay in the ground and again perhaps cause problems. Victorian houses were usually built with shallower foundations than we have now, but the lime mortar they used can actually 'rebond' and heal itself from small cracks. Modern houses have more robust foundations and non-lime mortar, in this case cracks may be more worrysome.

These closures also give pedestrians and cyclists low pollution routes. Having asthma, when I'm running for exercise or cycling to a destination, I will always try to stick to 'cleaner' roads with less traffic and less pollution. The railton road measures for example, now give me a 'clean' route to brixton by foot or by cycle. Court lane closure gives me a cleaner route from the village to forest hill.

You're missing the point: It's every car owners god given right to drive where they want, when they want, whatever speed they want and for whatever purpose they want. Unimpeeded by speed limits, tolls, speed cameras, crossings, congestion charges, cyclists, pedestrians, horses, llamas, illegal immigrants etc etc

Excellent, everything working as expected Next time you will plan ahead and negate the need for a car journey Wil72 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just a reminder that you can join the people that > have set up One Dulwich if you are as fed up with > these road closures as us; > > https://www.onedulwich.uk > > I travelled from East Dulwich to West Norwood > yesterday in the middle of the afternoon (to buy > paint so couldn't walk or cycle) > > It took me 40 minutes to get there and 35 minutes > to get back which is twice as long as it would > have taken before these ridiculous road closures. > > > I sat in a huge queue of traffic at the bottom of > Lordship Lane trying to get on to the South > Circular- backed up as far as Court Lane. Then sat > in yet more queuing traffic on the South Circular, > then the same on the way back. > > Anyone that thinks these closures are creating > less pollution is insane. > > And this is the quietest it will ever be- wait > until the Football & Rugby fixtures start at the > weekends, the children go back to school and > everyone is unfurloughed and driving at rush > hour... > > Add your experiences to the Southwark map- I am > sure the Council will do their best to ignore them > so join One Dulwich to make your voice heard too. > > https://dulwichvillagestreetspace.commonplace.is > > They are treating us local residents like > idiots...

Wow Penguin68 With uninformed comments like this, this forum gets more like the daily mail comments section every day Yes of course, it's a class war by a tory government on it's wealthy car owning voters The policy to reduce car usage and dedicate more road space post-covid, to pedestrians and cyclists is a national tory policy

Mono laminate is nowhere near as efficient as double glazing, has a U value of around 3.5 Single is around 6, argon filled double is about 1.2

20% of new cars are electric or hybrid, these don't generate any pollution at all when stopped. Most fairly recent petrol or diesels kill the engine when stopped, also reducing pollution. Park lane and Euston road don't look a complete stand still to me (https://www.tfljamcams.net/) Peoples behaviour will take time to adjust when they realise the days of frivilous car use are over (e.g. driving for social appointments during the rush hour, and getting outraged when there is a delay).

That'll be after they've salami sliced some more MOL to expand the stadium from 4000 to 5000, then run it down hill for housing.

the report isn't on the planning site yet you can add a comment and view the report (when it goes up) here: https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=ZZZV0JKBWR961

Got an email yesterday from planning informing me of the online meeting. States the recommendation from the planning officers is to approve. Me and my son have enjoyed many times of late around greendale, very much doubt any of the MOL will be left in 30y time when he would like to do the same.