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DuncanW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is there also the risk that it's a self-selecting > cohort so not representative of the wider > community? Residents of EDG undoubtedly deserve to > have their voices heard, but I note that over half > are either in favour or indifferent to the > closures, or didn't feel strongly enough to > participate in the survey (=indifferent?) > > It's not compelling stuff! maybe some people too frightened to take part. so much bad feeling you cant blame them. at least good balance to what southwrk comes up with dont think meant to be wider comunity -just what teh road thinks agree @penguin68 but people trying to do thier best. no confidence in council anymore

when are we getting data on traffic counts, polution etc. cant see how people are expected to anwser duwlich ltn survey without it

just saw this think these are the lbby groups https://www.onedulwich.uk/news/who-influences-southwark-council-about-dulwich-road-measures

less than 4 wks to go to fill in survey https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/improving-our-streets/live-projects/dulwich-review#:~:text=Dulwich%20review%20Dulwich%20Streetspace%20review%20is%20now%20live,and%20road%20safety%20for%20people%20walking%20and%20cycling

half way through the duwlich review deadline july 11 still no data still no recordings of public meetings still no anwsers to Qs at meetings whats gonig on? https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/improving-our-streets/live-projects/dulwich-review#:~:text=Dulwich%20review%20Dulwich%20Streetspace%20review%20is%20now%20live,and%20road%20safety%20for%20people%20walking%20and%20cycling.

shop next to cafe on closed junction in dulwich village closing down. so maybe trade not so good. dv has a lot of nice places to sit. would rather have shops than another place to sit

dont think duwlcih allince is saying lets go back to what it was.(see what @legalalien said) theyre saying that survey so cnfusing and so biased that its the only way to get southwwark back to the table. a lot of disagreement i know but duwlich alliance says current ltn unfair - need to consider everyone not just a few just looked it up on thier website - faqs here https://dulwichalliance.org/surveyfaqs/

sorry got link wrong dwulwich alliance Fighting fund is: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-end-road-closures-in-dulwich gone up since i posted now at 13800

duwlich allinace fighting fund now at 13,7oo. heres the link https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-end-road-closures-in-dulwich

did anyone go to @tomszekeres talk on air pollution in s london last night? someone said it was interesting. and that he said Be kind to each other amen to that

yes @heartblock and yes @plough man @rockets @legalalien @jellybeanz you probably havnt seen them but theres faqs on theduwlich alliance website @rahrahra https://dulwichalliance.org/surveyfaqs/ if the council rigs the survey, what do you expect. lets start again and find a solution thats fair for ALL

its about fairness @rahrahrah reducing traffic for all not pushing it on to croxted, edg, lorship lane, etc. what a mess at the moment - sensible people like you and me cant even talk solutons. real shame. labour party seems to have forgotten about core voters

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You could apply nearly all of those 10 items > listed as reasons not to increase road capacity. > The one I find most questionable however, is the > idea that making it as easy as possible for people > to drive short distances somehow benefits the > least affluent, when in reality it?s the least > affluent who tend not to own or drive a car. you forget that most people living in duwlich were already walking or cycling for short jounrneys before Ltns went in. 2 out of every 3 jounreys alreayd done on foot.

phase 3 report bias, missleading data and selective reporting to check this out will need raw data Guess that will mean another FOI.

anyone been sent the link for thsi yet? i registered but havent got link this afternoon 2 - 4 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/dulwich-streetspace-review-community-meetings-tickets-153435899907

agree lots of issues @northernmonkey but dont agree empty streets v traffic queues is the answer poor public trnaport in duwlich - lets start there. or communiy bus if tfl wont do anything solution must be fair. dont like seeing children walking to school on raods crammed full of traffic

forgot to say @siduhe that i thoght it was a great post too thank you

this help maybe @otto2?

fyi - statistics on twitter croxted getting all the traffic quote from tfl in march hope this is teh kind of data southwark will take notice of

zorya1995 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > An expose on how Southwark manipulated reality. > Well worth a read. > > https://www.onedulwich.uk/news/who-closed-dulwich- > village-junction 2 questions (quote) * has southwark council given the local community missleading infomation so far? * Does Southwhark council have the necessary skills and resources to run a public consultation?

@LTNBoohoo where does it say on 1D website or duwlcih calliance website that volmums of traffic hasnt increased pver [ast decade? cant find it. thank you. and how do you know that their app developers.or compromised media.

agree with replacing planters at dulwich vllg junction with cameras @exdulwicher, so does london ambulance. trouble is that southwark isnt that keen on any changes to its experimental orders

wish our mp was like rupa huq labour mp for ealing speech 27 April - she says we shoujld re-examine low traffic neighbourhoods, recognising that all streets matter. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2021-04-27a.105.0

dulwich alliance fighting fund building up quickly www.gofundme.com/f/help-end-road-closures-in-dulwich

dulwich alliance raising money for a fighting fund www.gofundme.com/f/help-end-road-closures-in-dulwich