Azira

Why is it relevant that they live in rented accommodation?

How would the drummer wearing headphones dull the sound for you, Aggie?

And you are clearly free to behave like a charmless git. 1/10- please try harder. Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Azira Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Sorry - I missed have missed the memo that > > appointed you the grief police and gave you the > > right to judge what people are allowed to feel > sad about. > > I believe in things called "freedom of thought" > and "freedom of speech". You may be familiar with > the concepts. > > So yes Jimmy Kimmel is perfectly free to cry about > a lion, or anything else. And I'm free to ridicule > it. And you're free to say daft things.

Sorry - I missed have missed the memo that appointed you the grief police and gave you the right to judge what people are allowed to feel sad about. Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I saw it > mainly as a send-up of the mawkish, global > grieving for an animal (Jimmy Kimmel crying on TV > over Cecil the Lion... FFS..)

We would whinge, complain and indulge in tribalism.

Sorry, we don't want your type around here. RobbleMuji Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I like having a cinema on my doorstep that shows > more interesting films than a multiplex. > I'm glad a great bakery and cafe opened down the > road from me, and employs local people. > For the matter, I applaud all the independent > shops and businesses around here even when they're > not my cup of tea. It takes guts to start your own > business. > I also expect to pay more for higher quality, if > something's not made in a factory, or someone > doesn't have a big company backing them to > artifically keep prices low. > I like going to pubs, including ones with children > in them. > I for one think there's room for 'old' and 'new' > East Dulwich, and that it'd be a far duller place > without the 'new'.

Curmudgeon is right, I think. The evidence is correlative not proven causation.

Out of curiosity, do any of the people who have had dodgy callers have burglar alarms?

Speak to Citizens Advice Bureau in the first instance, but with a bit of googling you'll see there are tonnes of free legal advice centres around London.

They are all assumptions Blah Blah - rational conclusions need to be based on evidence, of which there is none sufficient here to support some of the conclusions people have drawn. Your implication that I am "play[ing] games" once more is making an assumption about what I think about the OP. The "stir" comment was directed at the outraged keyboard warrior types not the OP (and is in the same vein as the ealier poster who mentioned popcorn, that I note you have refrained from taking a pop at). I am not "playing Devil's Advocate" (and again, thanks for your assumption that I don't hold with the opinions I express). I am just pointing out that lots of people are leaping to conclusions with no more apparent substantiation than their own prejudices/assumptions. I take this kind of behaviour very seriously. I also take making evidence-based conclusions very seriously.

The identity of the dissenter, the facts of the scenario, what reactions most parents would have.... there's quite a list, Blah Blah, including your implied assumption that I am doubting the OP. Thank you for nicely illustrating the point.

I do wonder that you don't see more people with Zimmer frames around here. Surely all of this leaping to conclusions must be bad on the knees.

[stir]Unless it's not true that they were in the middle of doing the same when the police turned up...[/stir]

Thanks folks.

My book habit has got slightly out of control so I want to get rid of a stack. Is there anywhere in ED or surrounds that accepts them as donations, or any other way I can get them put to good use without having to travel too far afield?

I disagree with those who say they aren't dropping. I've been watching SE22 and SE23 for about 2 years now and they definitely have been with modern properties.

No idea about 3 beds, but a place almost identical in structure (albeit that we have a south facing garden that's slightly bigger, we had more original features like fireplaces and our place was in better decorative nick) just around the corner sold for 85K less than ours less than a year after we bought ours. Non-period property generally seems to be going down.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Palmerston a rough pub? Really? I think people > use 'rough' when really they actualy mean > ungentrified Or perhaps they mean what they say. I've heard the same thing about the Palmerston and they certainly wouldn't have meant ungentrified.

humblebrag

South Norwood has been mentioned to me as the next place to buy from several property investor types. Whether that's worth it as a place to live depends on how long you plan to stay. Whilst I have no doubt the "gentrification factor" has a knock-on effect on prices of surrounding burbs, I think there's a considerable lag before that translates into a similarly improved high street, facilities and feel of the place. I used to live in Bethnal Green many moons ago and that's unrecognisable now, but it took at least a decade to change even after the prices started sky-rocketing in Shoreditch. As for feeling ripped off, I share your feeling (I think I got completely screwed when I bought at the peak of the market in HOP) but you need to outweigh the risk that will happen against the increasing likelihood that you'll be priced out anyway. You'd be lucky to get a good investment in an area you really like as a first buy, so just take the plunge with something you can live with in an area that's not too stabby. I only really regret it when I spend time back in my old neighbourhood and realise how curtain-twitchy the burbs can be.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- it's a shame > someone who's born and raised in an area cannot > stay there purely because of gentrification. I've never understood why this is supposed to be a good thing - the staying in one tiny postcode for your whole life I mean. Living in new places and meeting new people is enriching and builds more welcoming communities.

I'm in HOP, but the same issue.

You do realise that it's entirely possible for someone to vote Labour and also be a bit self-absorbed?

Nuisance is not that easy to establish. A single instance of a bonfire burning non-toxic fuel is unlikely to constitute a breach of s.79. The council also aren't likely to be threatening fines without investigating first, so I'm inclined to think it was a coincidence that the fires didn't happen again. A lot of people wouldn't be aware that this is an issue. Where I used to live in Zone 1, it was pretty common for people to have firepits on their patios or very very smoky BBQs, so I wouldn't bat an eyelid if I saw someone having one here unless it was a weekly occurence. Rather than using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, wouldn't it be better to knock on someone's door just pointing out it's causing a problem.

peckham_ryu Wrote: Then during the week when I followed up > with the Council, there was a record of the > incident, so they could write to the neighbour and > warn them about the whopping fine they would incur > the next time, as we were in a smokefree area. No > repeat bonfires, so it did the trick. (The Fire > Brigade did not sound enthusiastic when I called > though!) On what basis could they fine them? Smoke-free doesn't mean you can't have any fires - it means you can't have fires via a chimney.