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Diable - because it?s a good culture war issue that keeps Labour on the back foot. The argument in favour is superficially simple (you need ID to pick up a parcel) and it?s easy to paint opposition to being in favour of electoral fraud. Trying to engage with the detail of why it?s a terrible solution to a non existent problem requires a level of detail that is difficult to get across in a 15 second soundbite. It?s also helpful that the people most vocally opposed to this policy will be younger people of colour, allowing them to show that Labour has been taken over by woke, metro elites rather than traditional working class people. Edited to add: to give the Tories credit, they?re brilliant at this perpetual campaign and Labour are terrible at it. Partially for structural reasons but also because of the people involved.

Gosh I?m glad you created a thread about this otherwise I?d have literally no idea about the LTNs.

James I thought loft extensions for flats always required planning permission even if the same work on a house wouldn?t?

Droid Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Was checking into a small town hotel in Rockport > on the Texas Gulf coast 5 years ago and the > receptionist asked for some ID. I said "would my > passport be OK". > > She responded, "Oh, I've never seen a passport > before." > > She was delighted with the experience, if not the > PP photo! My friend had his British passport turned down as proof of age in San Diego as it was ?out of state? ID!

Where I take an even more cynical view that Johnson is genuine in his opposition to ID cards, but sees imposing voter ID laws without doing anything about the ID infrastructure in this country as a cheap and consequence free way of suppressing the rights of Labour voters.

We were told no for a roof terrace with our loft conversion as it would have been visible from the road. No ifs and no buts it just wasn?t acceptable even with screening etc. I think if we?d been further down the terrace and not visible from a public highway we might have been ok. Other than that the planners were very reasonable and gave clear advice about what would and wouldn?t be ok in terms of height of boundary walls for our extension and for raising our ridge line. We?re a freehold house rather than a leasehold flat so your mileage might vary.

I think the objection to the concept is that the UK doesn?t have a tradition of compulsory ID - indeed the current Prime Minister and his party were vocally opposed to them - voting is a fundamental democratic right and therefore requiring ID to vote is making ID compulsory by the backdoor. This is a fundamental shift in the relationship between the state and the citizen and properly be debated. Personally I?m not against a national ID programme if it is done competently, securely and equitably - but others will disagree and that?s a debate to be had in the round not over a strawman of voter fraud. The other point is the brazenly cynical nature of this proposal. We have a Conservative party who have campaigned against ID cards, have no evidence of in person voter fraud and have presided over the systematic denial of citizenship rights to elderly Caribbean immigrants - claiming that a measure shown to suppress voter turnout in poorer areas is necessary to safeguard our elections. It?s an attempt at voter suppression pure and simple - surely you must see that? As for the experience in other countries - I don?t know what evidence there is that ID requirements don?t suppress turnout, it certainly does when it has been introduced in US states especially amongst black and Latino voters. European countries have had compulsory ID cards for decades along with very different voting systems, and so it?s simply impossible to cherry pick one part of their national infrastructure and say ?it works ok there should be fine here?. And no that isn?t British exceptionalism, if anything it?s expecting any attempt to do this in the UK to be done in the cheapest, least competent way to give a show of protecting voters while really achieving the aim of stopping younger, poorer, people of colour voting.

I?d suggest Cat that either you?re being disingenuous or you just haven?t thought very hard about it. Any new law has consequences beyond the simple claim of ?preventing X? For voter ID we saw this with the pilots last election, the direct consequence was that 800 legitimate voters in pilot areas were prevented from exercising their democratic right due to lack of ID. For me the biggest difference for the UK compared to Europe is a lack of a mandatory national ID. Passports and Drivers Licences are nowhere near universal, especially in poorer areas. Even if ?Voter ID cards? were free they?ll presumably require people to know about them, know how to apply, have the time to apply, the money to send supporting documents and photos securely to whoever is issuing them, and the update them every time you move or when they expire. The people least able to do this, the people least able to get a new ID card in the six weeks after a snap general election is called: poor people and people of colour. Hell you don?t even need to be that poor, I think my pensioner father still has a paper licence and hasn?t been abroad in years so doesn?t have or need a current passport. Of course since it?s clear the government are acting in bad faith here, I have zero reason to believe they?ll do anything to make ID accessible for those people currently excluded from photo ID. I?ve no idea how it works in Australia, is ID universal? How does lack of ID in Australia intersect with compulsory voting?

In my experience when companies ?self insure? what is often meant is they take a third-party only policy and then cover damage to their own vehicles themselves or have an extremely high excess. One employer I worked for had a ?10k excess for damage to our fleet meaning we only claimed for write-offs. There is a way of lodging a ?500k bond with the government to truly self insure, but the risk of being on the hook for a multi-million pound payout in the event of being at fault for an employee causing life long injuries makes it a unattractive approach. Even the really big logistics firms have insurance for third party claims for that reason. In any case for the OP, their insurer should pursue this on their behalf and will have access to the insurance details for Sainsbury?s via the MIB database.

Which paper should she have written it in? The ones owned by Lord Rothermere, the ones owns by Rupert Murdoch or the one owned by the Barclay family? Anyway, as you know, those op eds are written for the broadcast media to report on not because anybody seriously believes they?ll directly change the mind of the readers of a newspaper.

If you?ve reported it to the police abs your insurers then leave them to deal with it. Sainsbury?s aren?t going to say anything to you which there are potential civil and criminal cases ongoing.

I was comparing your definitions of Traditional Working Class in places like Hartlepool vs the Metro Socialists you seem to think are behind Labour in the cities. Comparing national averages which include the affluent Tory shires doesn't seem meaningful if we're trying to look at potentially different definitions of working class. I'm not sure which statistics you've been checking, but comparing Hartlepool to the constituency for East Dulwich using Parliamentary data I don't think the numbers back up your claim. The Commons Library have pulled the income data from the web due to the pandemic making the data unreliable, if you have a good source of comparative data for this please do share. Looking at Housing Tenure (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/constituency-data-housing-tenure/#single_constituency): Hartlepool: Owner occupied 59.8% Social renters 23.5% Dulwich and West Norwood: Owner occupied 41.1% Social renters 32.4% National average: Owner occupied 63.5% Social renters 18.2% Looking at age (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/constituency-statistics-population-by-age/#single_constituency) Hartlepool: 50-90 40.3% 65-90 19.4% Dulwich and West Norwood: 50-90 26.2% 65-90 9.7% National average: 50-90 37.7% 65-90 18.4% Finally looking at Ethnicity (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/constituency-statistics-ethnicity/#single_constituency): Hartlepool: White 97.7% Dulwich and West Norwood: White 59.4% National average: White 87.2%

Has she tried calling Peckham Islamic Centre?

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Just catching up with the London mayoral election > result detail....and seems like the above doesn't > really jell with sadiq having his margin cut in > london. > > Yes, he won handsomely, but the swing away from > him (and to a candidate who basically had his > funding slashed from Tory HQ a month out from the > elections) suggests there may be more to it for > Labour than just a redistrbution of demographics > as discussed above (of course this clearly is a > key driver as well).... I don?t think the Mayoral election tells us much either way. Looking at the percentages in the first round it appears that Bailey benefited from a collapse in the UKIP vote and Labour lost some vote share to the Greens. The second round shift seems similar to the reduction in share for the incumbent under both Johnson and Livingstone. Also, yes Bailey was a terrible candidate but so was Goldsmith. That?s not to say I?m a big fan of Khan?s, I?m pretty ambivalent and he didn?t get my first preference.

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It?s simple. Labour is appeasing two camps. Metro > socialists and traditional working classes. Metro > socialists are over represented at parliamentary > level, and a perception (rightly or wrongly) has > festered in the mind?s of some of those > traditional old industrial communities, that > Labour doesn?t represent their opinions anymore. This interestingly exposes the definitional flaw at the heart of the discussion here. "Traditional working classes" as used here seems to include a large groups of people who do not work (retired homeowners on defined benefit pensions in the towns of the North and Midlands) while excluding large groups who do work (younger people in larger cities - including London - often in unstable employment). It just so happens that the 'traditional working class' are white while those working in cities who don't count as working class tend to be more diverse. So when the media talks about Labour losing touch with 'working people' what they mean is losing touch with older socially conservative white people who once worked. There is little evidence that I have seen that Labour is losing support amongst younger working voters (in fact I believe their share of vote amongst under 40s is increasing). Of course electorally this is a huge problem for Labour and will get worse as red-wall type seats continue to age and depopulate. I don't know what Labour do about this, it seems tough to think they can out socially conservative the Tories as Louisa seems to suggest.

Dulwich Hamlets is very well regarded. The old head also set up The Belham which also has a strong reputation. Both schools just joined the Charter School trust with the ED and ND Charter Schools.

I believe that contract was frustrated (as it legally couldn?t take place) and therefore you were due a full refund regardless of the contractual terms. There?s been quite a lot of coverage of this issue around holidays if you Google it. Did you pay on a credit or debit card? If so I?d go to your card issuer once you?ve been told in writing that they won?t refund you. Card providers tend to side with their customers as they don?t want the hassle. Following that you?d have to make a small claims via Money Claims Online. It?s ?70 to actually file it, but you can fill in the claim online and then print that out with a covering letter saying you?ll file it if you don?t get a refund, that often focusses the mind of companies.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fast food culture + ubiquitous snacking x > littering = rodent heaven I haven?t noticed much litter on Cox?s walk though.

MikeB - agreed I?ve never seen so many rats while running compared to the last month or so. Seems to be a population explosion.

I think this is a brilliant article that might remind us of the veracity of some of the Northern reporting https://thecritic.co.uk/the-woodfired-brick-wall/

roxie99 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > good idea! ?1000 fine if caught.

roywj Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Saw a black SUV (think it was a VW) driving down > Burbage Road towards Half Moon Lane with half the > number plate covered in gaffer tape around 9.05am > this morning. > > I wonder if anyone looks at the camera footage and > realises this is happening to avoid the closure? > If it is all automated probably not. If an ANPR system gets a partial read it will be flagged for a human to review. Who knows if the Southwark system does colour or vehicle type matching too but I?ve seen systems that can do this to check for dodgy plates. Whether Southwark or the Police have the resources to then track the vehicle with an obscured licence plate is another question, personally I hope so.

roywj Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Saw a SUV with gaffer tape over half of the number > plate this morning driving down Burbage Road. > Wonder if cameras are checked for this sort of > thing? But of course the fines are because motorists are confused...

We?ve had critter solutions in to put down the grain poison traps that work brilliantly. In the past we?ve used the child safe big cheese traps which are ok, but not completely effective.

I don?t disagree with j.a. although I do wonder what Labour could do to cut through to voters in the North and Midlands? The fact that Angela Rayner is seen as part of the liberal elite while Jacob Rees-Mogg isn?t speaks volumes about the challenges Labour has faced post-Brexit. I think the country has tacked distinctly rightward and towards a nationalist position, I?m not sure how Labour addresses that. There are also three structural problems Labour need to overcome. First, Labour voters are more concentrated that Tory voters (therefore leading to fewer seats per million voters). Second, Nationalist parties (and to an extent the Lib Dmes) block any route to a Labour majority as England has an inbuilt Tory majority. Third, the evaporation of BXP/UKIP/etc has United the vote on the right while the centre/left remains fragmented.