adonirum, you can tell my disconnect from politics demonstrated by my poorly constructed response to the thread. Oh, agreed regarding the contractors, simply posted it to illustrate (badly) how progress is made, but also a lot of waste and the same work covered several times over in some cases due to the councils relationship with contractors, but that particular issue not being the fault of our local councillors. Am well aware of this not being a new development, the same thing was going on here in the early 80's also, and no doubt long before that.