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hi, no, census counts people in all our shapes and sizes. what we've got is everything else (buildings and some land) back in 2010, a group of us got together to get our heads round the core strategy, to try and read the document, collectively, work on our own comments and prepare for the examination in public where the govt's planning inspector goes through everything with a very fine comb. the group continues to operate as 'southwark planning network', a loose network of local residents and community groups who have an interest in planning, mainly strategic. one of the ongoing issues has been lack of data, which in turn made it very difficult for people to be able to meaningfully respond to strategic and other planning issues. street-by-street level of detail makes it easier to 'connect' to planning if you like, as planning is about so much more than shape/size of buildings, it's about the length of time you may need to get to your local gp or kids' school, it's about finding the space to create alternatives/improve your area (through reclaiming amenity spaces for safe play for children or for communal fruit & veg growing etc) in an ideal world (and we will see if this is possible) we would be able to match the 'property' street-by-street data against the street-by-street census stuff (the census data does not got beyond ward level) - we've played around with the london-level census data when they released it earlier this year & things are quite interesting when you look at age groups for example). this would also show the density and any trends/changes over time etc.

Some of you may be aware that, for a while now, we've been trying to get the data for all properties in Southwark, to help local residents and community groups get a better understanding of planning and related issues. We now have the full inventory and will need your help to make sure the data is as accurate and up-to-date as possible. Please have a read and let us know what you think http://www.peoplesrepublicofsouthwark.co.uk/hold-news/news/2542-imagining-all-of-southwark

ive just updated some of the representations http://www.peoplesrepublicofsouthwark.co.uk/core-strategy/blog i/few others will be making, there's three at the moment, but will be more as there's still a few hours to go till 5pm tomorrow - please feel free to comment/suggest stuff if you get a chance? thank you x

that was very very funny, thanks :)

louisiana, are any of your/other croydon comments available to see online anywhere? would be really helpful thanks lili

chair, thanks for the advice - i thought that the major document defining the future of whole southwark would be an appropriate theme - people's republic of southwark is a not-for-profit community initiative and one of the key ideas is to share information - hopefully this will clarify any confusion?

yes, here it is http://www.southwark.gov.uk/Uploads/FILE_45011.pdf

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Hello everyone, I don't know how many of you had a chance/time/mental energy to read the Core Strategy document which will affect all our lives for the next 20 years, but if you have, any feedback/input is more than welcome. Deadline for comments has been extended to 5th March although a number of local groups, let alone residents, were not aware of it in the first place. I've written a short introductory article about some of the problems (Cor!Strategy, the Sequel - http://www.peoplesrepublicofsouthwark.co.uk/news/cor-strategy-the-sequel) as well as two articles within the Cor! Strategy section of the site which you are more than welcome to comment on. Have you been in any way involved in preparing the document? Have you been aware of it at all? Have you made any comments/suggestions to the document that you'd be happy to share? Any other thoughts/suggestions? Thanks

Round one of the Southwark version of the Sustainable Communities Act finished last month. As there has been a lot of discontent with the way the Council handled it this time round, we are all hoping to learn from it and hopefully get it right the next time round. We've put together a few questions about your experience of the process, so please answer them when you get a chance. Full article is here sustainable communities act, the questions Thanks

happy boxing day everyone things are never black and white, and the alternative to what the 'real' world is today is not a cave and snow eating. the 'real' world itself is not a fixture but a changing (although not necessarily evolving) one and thankfully there are alternatives. we could learn to consume ethically so that when we do buy something, we know that the profit will go to the person(s) who made the item, rather than a boss/manager/company director we could learn to not keep our money in banks whose only real purpose in life is to keep the canary wharf chaps in business we could learn to take a step back and relearn to breathe we could learn to not compete 24 7 etc?

i wouldn't call it unfair, mockney, just a fact? oh i feel a ramble coming on (my own ramble) - i'll post more when i've unrambled it :)

i don't think it matters how much it is, or how much, when broken down to individual council tax bill, individual people will be paying. it's the fact that pretty much all of us are responsible for the war deaths around the world and for the police murders of innocent people in this country.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "police or the government and not the people" > > Eh? And who pays for them? Or do you mean out of > their wages? Now I'm with you on that one!! > > Could you imagine what a great precedent that > would set, if all politicians who voted for the > war actually had to hand over 80% of their income > and directorships to pay for the extra injury > compensation, for the separate health care injured > soldiers require, for the equipment they should > have been issued with? > > Now we're talking :) yes to all of your post :)

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > and your point is that who should pay ? i wasn't making a point, sean, i was just pointing to the article. personally i think it should be the police or the government who foot the bill and not the people.