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Why does anyone care what happens in Canada (population 36 million)? It's already legal for recreational use in 9 US states including California which by itself is a larger population.

One of the many reasons I love Stormbird.

Beckett would have loved this.

Yes I've been twice.I don't see how saying I'm not that into the latest street food trend being repackaged as a semi-formal dining concept is slagging off a business. I'll just keep going to their tapas place instead which I happen do like.

I don't get this bao trend. Sure, would work great as a snack in a cafe or a bar but it's not the sort of thing that lends itself to a formal'ish dining experience. Much prefer their tapas place.

Same here. I've always really liked it.

Went in over the Christmas. Place stank of fried food so walked straight out again. Typical loud, soulless gastropub from what I could see. Will try it again but really didn't see what the fuss is all about.

You and your mates must have been particularly strong willed. However I still wouldn't advocate it's return as I saw adults go over the line too many times.

There are various pubs out there that don't allow kids at any time because of old licensing conditions that have passed down through the years. Craft Beer Co in Brixton is one.

Three years this thread has been going now. Talk about glacial.

Agreed but it does need to be managed closely. The Regent's Canal in the east end being a good example where it hasn't been and there have been loads of accidents and confrontations as a result.

They're not offensive but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. Personally I think Camberwell does pubs a lot better whether it be gastro (Crooked Well, Camberwell Arms), old skool career alky (Hermit's Cave), beer nerd (Stormbird).

Another cookie cutter pubco boozer. Does anything that's not a chain ever open in ED these days?

Same here. I've been hemorrhaging friends and acquaintances over the last 2-3 years. These aren't the "not really cut out for London" types either. None of them wanted to leave. They just couldn't afford to stay and build any kind of secure future. Age range being around mid 30's.

Even though they're in different boroughs Telegraph Hill and Nunhead are basically the same neighborhood. If anything East Dulwich feels much further removed being on the other side of the park.

Makes a change from all the chains and chazza shops I suppose.

I prefer the Gowlett's pizzas to Franco Manca personally.

As someone mentioned earlier the ale selection is already behind the curve for a place trading as a craft beer boozer. Apart from Kernel they only other thing of note they used to have on was a few decent Sierra Nevada seasonals now and again. Although at least they had some business claiming to be a craft beer bar unlike those chancers at the Clock House. Do they still have that ridiculous sign outside trying to pass off a load of macro stuff as craft?

I don't think he's involved in XoYo anymore.

I don't mind Youngs either. However kidding on that you have a craft beer list and then filling 2/3rds of it with lager is leaving yourself open to ridicule. Even the other nearest corporate boozer (The Rye, owned by Greene King) manage to stock Kernel.

Is this still a Young's tied pub? Beer list is definitely on the boring side of 'craft'.

In the 'On The Up' section this month. Probably a bit early to be honest but the hipsters (shock troops of gentrification) seem to be getting results.

Nah, I'd much rather have a load of chains and empty units.....like Lordship Lane.

Following on from a previous thread on here where everyone seemed to refuse to believe change was afoot in SE15. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1013219,1026732#msg-1026732 First Vice (which was bad enough). http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-went-on-a-quest-to-find-the-new-dalston Now even The Metro have cottoned on. http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/21/peckham-the-new-place-to-party-in-london-3552421/

That should say T.W.A.T.