fredricketts

Actually Fred, if you look around you, you'll see that East Dulwich residents are doing an awful lot of breeding, and have been doing so for some time, which may explain a lot of the increase. Add to that the excellent medical facilities in the area and a reluctance of the older generation to retire to the seaside (as they might once have done) and it's going to get ever so crowded round here even if not one 'immigrant' moves here. Thats the problem overcrowing by who ever.

Why should the Car club drivers always have a place to park? they paying the council for the car club parking spaces ! Ah yes, Money making venture again. And as for more houses and people in Dulwich, Most of the people I know in East Dulwich, and I have been here since 1963, do not want Dulwich turned into a Town or a metropolis , and that is what the Council is trying and succeeding in doing. This is from a Politian mouth: ?The predictions for east Dulwich are an extra 6,000 people on top of the current 33,000. God knows where they'll all go. Also all the political parties are avoiding the population problem of a predicted extra 1 million people living in London within the next 10 years needing an extra 500,000 homes. This prediction is mostly from immigration of other Europeans.

One way to start to resolve the problem with parking in East Dulwich. Would be to change the stupid UDP planning laws, that allows the Council and developers to convert and build houses, without any consideration to car parking, this has been the main reason for our problems with parking. AND STOP TURNING EAST DULWICH INTO A TOWN. When it?s always been a Village. None of our problems are going to get sorted out on this site, but I must say it?s a good place to start. The council need to consult with the people in these roads, not over a five minute period, but as long as it takes, it seems that Mr B Hargrove is in such a hurry to get this through, why? It?s taken at least ten years to get to this state, so a few months more won?t make any difference

I think that most of the support will be at the meeting of the 24th January 2011. I know I will be there.

Just out of interest, Southwark Council, has Dulwich down as a Town and not a village. This is on there site:Draft Dulwich SPG and draft Lordship Lane town centre SPG.

Here is my reply from Tessa Jowell our Local MP. Waste of space but here goes Dear Tessa, Re: CPZ in Grove Vale. Thank you for your email and attached letter from your constituent Mr Fred Ricketts who has raised his and others concerns in relation to the introduction of the Controlled Parking Zone surrounding East Dulwich Station. The Council carried out consultation with the residents and businesses on a proposed controlled parking Zone (CPZ) in Grove Vale (East Dulwich station) area. The consultation closed on 11 November 201. It?s important to note that this is just a consultation and no decision has been taken to implement a CPZ. I have provided below, some background to the consultation and details on the next step. Background. The majority of streets around East Dulwich station do not have parking controls. The absence of controls on the public highway means that anyone can park: for some people this is a positive whereas others find it an inconvenience. We are aware that parking pressure is very high in the streets around the station and some of the demand can be attributed to commuters using East Dulwich station. In 2010, the council made a funding bid to Transport for London (TFL) so that a study about parking could be carried out in the Grove vale area. This bid was part of the councils overall, annual bid to TFL for transport projects. More details about the TFL bid can be found on the following webpage. http://moderngov.southwarksites.com/ieDecisionDetails.aspx?ID=1495 The Councils constitution sets out that, before consulting on the CPZ, we will discuss the consultation boundaries (and method) with the local community council. For this project we reported to Dulwich Community Council on the 15/09/11 and the Camberwell \Community Councils on the 22/09/11. It is normal CPZ practice to consult only with those within the Consultation area. Consultation documents were distributed to the study area (1159 properties) on 14th October 2011, with the dead line to return questionnaires detailed as 11 November 2011. 27 Street notices were erected wi8thin the consultation area to inform the local community that a parking consultation was taking place. We also wrote to the Councils key stakeholders as part of the Consultation. Furthermore the projects webpage was updated with the details of the consultation and details on the council?s main consultation page. It was not possible to extend the consultation period, as the programme did not allow for this and reduces the time necessary to carry out the detailed analysis, proposed recommendations and prepare the consultation report in time for the Community Council meetings. Although the meetings are not until January, the report must be submitted before the Christmas period. Decision Process. A full report will be prepared that presents the consultation results on a street by street and wide area basis. The consultation has generated a high volume of correspondence from both the residents and business inside and outside the consultation boundary. We have also received petitions for and against controls from the area. All communications received will be summarized and included in our consultation report. I expect the draft report to be presented to the Dulwich and Camberwell Community Councils in January 2012 before a key decision is taken by the Cabinet member for Transport, Enviroment and Recycling in early 2012. Yours Sincerely. Councillor Barrie hargrave.

Here lies the root of the problem, and this is from the Politicians. This is the new planning laws at work.The predictions for east Dulwich are an extra 6,000 people on top of the current 33,000. God knows where they'll all go. Also all the political parties are avoiding the population problem of a predicted extra 1 million people living in London within the next 10 years needing an extra 500,000 homes. This prediction is mostly from immigration of other Europeans

I sent this letter to Tessa Jowell our local MP. Dear Tessa Jowell You may be aware, that it is Southwark Council intensions to introduce CPZ in the roads around East Dulwich Station. This appears to be done with a minimum of Consultation, (and as I understand it, 50 residents in the area.) Our concern and some 1549 local residents and traders, who petitioned against this, that it will force vehicles into the surrounding areas, and our streets, are over crowed now. The Council has been asked to extended the time period and consultation, but have refused, and it is quite obvious, they have their own agenda. As most residents only found out about it in the last week. Most roads and streets in East Dulwich are suffering from parking problems, because there are too many cars chasing too few parking spaces, why because of the stupid law that you can build flats and conversions without considering parking spaces. Would you kindly look into this matter for the residents of Ashbourne Grove, and the other 1500 petitioners? Have had no reply as yet. Perhaps those of you that are against the CPZ for whatever reasons should email Tessa Jowell at [email protected]. And ask her to look into the way in which this whole business of CPZ has been handled and is still being handled. Ashbourne Grove put in a partition to the Council in 2004-5, totally ignored; the Grove still has the same problems, mainly because of BAD PLANNING LAWS.

The car club is another way of giving our parking Spaces away to private contractors to earn money out Of taking away premium parking spaces,and the car club probably Gives gifts to the council for our public parking spaces.

The only option we want in Ashbourne Grove is option 1 No CPZ, it?s just a money maker for Councils, and they know it, that?s why they choose to ignore the people. They keep on about people getting involved with what goes on in their community, and when you do, they ignore, what the people want, and just bulldoze, their own agendas through, it?s about time they listened to the people that elect them to carry out the public wishes, that?s what I thought we elected them for. Why would the developer of the Nursery at East Dulwich Station want to give the residents 3 years car club membership, and a new library, and this is well in advance of the CPZ coming out.? Just to push through their plans for over populating the area, and making parking a lot worse than what it is already. And to make money to waste on stupid road humps and bus islands to slow down the motorist and force people on to the useless over priced public transport. And to make residents lives a misery.

It's about time all MPs and councilors are made to be accountable To the electors, I have had many. Dealings with Southwark council and have never found them to be above board, They always have their own agendas.And they don not care what residents want,just look at what is happening in Westminster, the majority of residents don't want CPZ, yet they are not dropping it.where is the democracy,there is none. I have written to Tessa Jowell and awaiting her reply.

Any councillors reading this: you need to act. Stop sitting in the fence with " the consultation will give us what people want". The consultation looks flawed& biased and verging on corrupt

Can we not petition our MP (Tessa Jowell)? that is, if she is not in favour of it, MP are supposed to take notice of their voters.

As you said ?A bloody good business" More like a stealth TAX. PCZ is a way of taking control of our roads, and putting them in the control of TFL and Councils, and in the end make MONEY, for the Council and Governments, to carry on wasting,.

It is sad, that Mr James Barber is the only one from the Council, to answer our concerns. It?s the ones hiding, that need to be told our concerns, and to work with the residents, not against them, and James is just taking the flak for them. It?s the Council that is not listening; they have their own agendas, as we all probably had experiences with them. I for one did not know about the planning permission for the flats at East Dulwich Station, as I would have been a main objector to them being built, the site could have been used for a Station Car Park, Noooooooooo, some rich developers may not get rich enough, and the Council won?t have more rates coming in, and TFL has more customers on a services that cannot manage the customers that it already has, and lastly you cannot guarantee that the tenants will not buy cars, and therefore, more residents less car parking spaces, hence more controlled parking for profit, or more money to spend on infrastructure neglected by previous Governments and Councils. As I said the Council can waste money in Melbourne Grove, by taking the humps up and putting them down again, and yet even after being given ?20,000 towards consultation of residents, only a few are consulted yet again. (Same thing happened with Somerfield?s Flats and Customer parking lot).

Quote James barber: as there are better things to spend ?20,000 locally. Sorry James. Like taking up road humps and putting them down again, just so as buses can avoid them. There has to be something in it for the developer, otherwise he would not offer ?20,000.Perhaps I was being a bit unfair on you as it was your Colleague Mr J Mitchell that was supposed to be helping the residents in Ashbourne Grove with their parking problems, and as usual, nothing was done, except to put humps in, that are not big enough to slow down a snail. It seems a bit odd giving planning permission for twenty flats with no where to park their cars, and at the same time PCZ is just waiting to come in around the corner for implementation. Why, do you not, do what the Majority want, and after all we all live here, some a lot longer than others. I have seen East Dulwich come from a Nice area with just the right amount of people in, to an overcrowded place with too many people in, and if you stupid Councillors and Government carry on with such ridiculous laws, like allowing planning permission for flats and houses without any consideration for car parking, then things will get a lot worse, hence your PCZ, without consultation. It appears to me that nothing is well thought out, in regards to various schemes that are thought up by the brains trust (Southwark Council) until after the money has been spent, and it?s too late, they then spend more money putting it right or just letting the residents get on with it. No one is accountable as they all blame each other, and who ends up footing the bill, yes muggings the rate payer. IT?S TIME WE HAD MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM COUNCLES AND GOVERNMENT

Unfortunately this has been the governments policy for the last four years,and they wonder why areas are becoming overcrowded.probally to allow more and more people into areas,where they can control parking for their benefits,and to promote public transport.The normal public know that allowing flats and houses to be built with out taking into consideration parking facilities, is madness,but not the powers to be,they just create chaos, and we have to pay for it.Thats why we are in the state that we are in.To many chiefs and not enough Indians.

Very strange indeed,a lot of under handedness going on, nothing new with Southwark Council,all there priorities wrong.

The Lib dem Councillors did exactly the same to the flats above Somerfield?s three years ago. , planning permission for twelve flats with no where to park their cars, and no were to put their rubbish. It?s done deliberately, so CPZ can be brought in. and they deliberately kept the fact that it was a hostel with sex offenders in it, they broke their own planning laws for about three years after and probably still breaking it with no where to put their rubbish and cars, so Ashbourne Grove residents have been suffering ever since. With big businesses comes corruption, like Councils who seem to get involved in everything except running the bourgh properly. Car clubs that belong to private firms allowed to have public parking spaces everywhere, when they know that parking places are at a premium, and they are not helping by allowing flats and houses to be built without consideration as to where they will be parking their cars, and whats more they don?t care about were cars are parked, as they will have their CPZ and earning more money to squander on the humps in Melbourne Grove and the top of Rye Lane. Are buses not under the same law as motorists? Why take up the humps so the buses can go down the road, and then put the humps back after they have been re routed again. Planning permission for the flats above Somerfield?s and permission to build on their car par was given at twelve o?clock at night, the very last application of the night and no one was informed by the Council. ONE LAW FOR US ANOTHER FOR THEM. We elect them to do what is right for the Community, not what is right for them.

I think it is quite obvious by now that Southwark Council is not listening to the residents of Dulwich, and that they have their own agenda like always. I think that we all should write to Tessa Jowell, about the situation, and have her try and earn the money she gets for being our MP. I will be writing this evening, her email address is: [email protected]

Perhaps its about time Southwark Council spent some of its 80 Million pound reserve it has, only all I keep hearing is we cannot afford it. I think they can.

Another Cranky law by Southwark Council that they cannot afford to carry out,maybe the noise team might be awake if they lived next door to one of these mad parties. Can we hope that a few noisy parties spilling into the street will occur near the homes of our sleepy councilors.

The council are blaming the Cost, for not consulting people outside the zone. What it cost to take up the humps in Melbourne Grove, just so the buses could go down there, and then to put them back again, would have covered the cost of consultation in the whole Of Dulwich. And after all, we are only asking to be consulted, on what, I think we have a right to know. We live here, the council does not. Its The Councils and Government that have caused these problems, by overpopulating areas. It is not us that have let all these flats and conversions take place, without taking in to consideration the affect that it will have on communities? car parking habits. Is East Dulwich now going to be blighted with PCZ, just to make the Council more money to waste on stupid Humps that are not even driven over? Dulwich used to be a Suburban area, and now because of greed by Councils and Government, we are now becoming an urban area. East Dulwich has had parking problems now for the last ten years, that how long the residents of Ashbourne Grove have been complaining to the Council, in one ear and out the other, PCZ is not the answer, it?s the Councils way in the back door for the rest of Dulwich. AND WHY SHOULD WE PAY TO PARK IN STREETS WERE WE LIVE. AND PAY FOR VISITORES TO VISIT US?

What can we expect, when Gov and Council changed the planning laws, to allow more and more people in to the Dulwich area? And conversions allowed without any reference as to parking spaces. Because of the rubbish transport services, these people have cars, and parking space has become a premium, and the council allow Car parks to be built on. This consultation should be abandoned, and a fresh one started with all residents affect.

Great job GSIRETT, Lets see if they are listening, I have some more signatures, I did not get them till Late, will keep hold of them Given that the vast majority of people in the area only seem to have found out about this scheme (and it's "consultation") within the last week or so, I think this should sent a clear message to Cllrs Hargrove and Barber. I now suggest that this scheme is either shelved or a proper consultation is performed (one that takes into account the views of not just the people within the proposed zone)