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Road closures wont stop people parking - especially when the schools are back and the sixth formers are looking for parking spaces but might have been better off waiting to see the effect of the CPZ before closing roads off. Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can anyone provide rationale as to why the CPZ > measures are currently needed, especially given > than most of the roads impacted are now going to > have permeable filters? Since Covid started, and > given this is likely the new normal for well into > the New Year, is parking continuing to be a > problem? > > Surely the money being spent on this could be > channelled more effectively elsewhere to have a > more positive impact?

I understand that gatherings of no more than 30 people are allowed. Looks like more than 30 people in the video. I wouldn?t be happy if I lived on Court Lane/Calton junction with all that going on outside, think the closure will be losing any remaining support with locals.

The traffic along East Dulwich Grove & Goose Green roundabouts will become a nightmare. The junction of Lordship Lane & East Dulwich Grove is already dangerous for pedestrians and will only become worse as it gets busier. Maybe with plans to also later close Townley Road the planners think more traffic will stay on Lordship lane? Serena2012 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To say I?m disappointed, as a resident of the > section of EDG that will be directly impacted is > an understatement. This is nimbyism in the > extreme. I walk down Melbourne North, Elsie and > Derwent regularly and far from being overrun by > rat runners, they are in fact very very quiet. > Indeed, it?s lucky if a single vehicle drives past > in the time it takes me to walk down each road. > What these proposals will do however is to force > the many many car owners living on these roads > past my front door whenever they leave their > houses. The junction of Lordship Lane and EDG as > well as the Goose Green roundabout are already > saturated, yet Southwark think it is acceptable to > add to the number of vehicles needing to use these > on a daily basis. > > It will come as no surprise that (based on my > review of 2011 census data) the section of EDG set > to suffer far worse traffic as a direct > consequence of this, does not have a resident?s > association; we have far lower owner occupiers > than any of the streets standing to benefit; > significantly more social housing; a significantly > greater BAME population; and far lower levels of > car ownership. It is hard to believe that a labour > council thinks this is appropriate, particularly > as a ?green? initiative in the middle of a global > pandemic where individuals from a BAME background > are already at far greater risk of contracting > coronavirus and dying from it. > > As with the sister schemes already implemented on > Melbourne South and in Dulwich Village, all these > schemes do is to divide the community; displace > traffic and significantly increase air pollution > elsewhere by increasing the volume of traffic on > roads that cannot cope with it, thereby > significantly increasing the amount of idling > traffic. > > Except for the very very few school children who > live on Tintagel Crescent or Melbourne North, > practically every child going to school in the > area will need to intersect with an A road at some > stage. Making these roads more polluted and > congested than ever before cannot be in anyone?s > interests.

I received my letter earlier this week, implementation is September 14th. Work restarted yesterday. Serena2012 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > James > > Please can we have an update on the East Dulwich > CPZ. I?ve seen that work on the road markings has > commenced and that the proposals to turn Melbourne > North, Tintagel, Elsie and Derwent roads into > exclusive gated communities refer to the CPZ > coming into effect in August. > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHo > me.aspx?IId=50023482&Opt=0 > > However, there is no reference to this elsewhere > on Southwark?s website, see for example, which > still suggests that this is suspended: > https://www.southwark.gov.uk/health-and-wellbeing/ > public-health/for-the-public/coronavirus/impact-on > -council-services/coronavirus-parking-restrictions > -and-controlled-parking-zones > > Given that it?s 11 August, if this is to be > implemented before the end of the month, you?re > not giving residents very long to sort out > permits. Please please can we have clarity and > guidance on this. I?m fairly sure that when the > CPZ was initially suspended, the council explained > that all residents would be notified prior to its > reinstatement. I see no evidence that this has > happened, despite the fact that we are a third of > the way through August.

Or stop vehicles blocking the junction, no need for bicycles to take pavement space especially if the road has been closed. Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "we are likely to see more cyclists mounting the > pavements to get around parked vehicles." > > Time for a permanent filter on the pavements then.

I?m not asking for your input thanks first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is there really a pressing need for this at the > moment? >

Hi James, Pleased to see the East Dulwich CPZ will be going live on 14th September, work recommencing 10 August. Thanks for your work and support which will improve congestion and air quality in this area.

Traffic & parking levels are almost back to pre Covid levels - when is the East Dulwich parking zone going to get back on track and implemented?

Possibly and therefore people in affected areas such as those living close to the train station would still be suffering. There is definitely a domino effect but not necessarily started by Southwark, neighbouring boroughs also have CPZs which have had a knock on effect. I expect residents around Lordship Lane will soon be calling for a CPN once West Peckham & EDG parking restrictions are in full operation. first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My understanding is, the council insisted on > consulting on a street by street basis other than > when this approach defeated their objective to get > CPZ. For instance, Melbourne Grove taken as whole > road was against CPZ, so the council decided to > treat it as two separate roads with a north and > south end, so it could get a majority in favour of > CPZ from those living closest to the station. The > aim was to get a domino effect where those streets > closest to the station roads would vote in favour > of CPZ and so on. The station roads were the > catalyst the council needed to get CPZ started. > Had ED being consulted as an area CPZ would not > happen.

Southwark news says the man arrested was in his 50s and I would say that the man around here is younger, late 20s, 30s.

He seems to coherent enough pick and choose his targets. I would handle myself fine with him but it would be last resort as I wouldn?t want to touch him!

Just seen him on East Dulwich Grove shouting at someone across the road trying to start a fight. Now walking towards Charter ED wearing grey trousers and a black coat. Went quiet for a while but now appears he is back .

There has been an old blue SAAB parked on East Dulwich Grove for the past year and a half. Never moves, flat tyres, covered in dirt and windows so black they look tinted!. Is so old that it doesn?t need tax or MOT. Might be abandoned but council & DVLA can?t touch it as it isn?t breaking any rules. Shame to see an old classic in such a state.

So what are you suggesting? People should not bother calling the Police in case it's due to mental health issues? Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If he is displaying psychotic behaviour, a Police > psychiatrist will section him. Then medical > professionals will assess the risk, esp if he is > not taking his medication, and go from there. > > You are making assumptions that doctors (you need > two) are available to section him, and that there > is space in a medium secure unit for him to be > housed (his behaviour is clearly aggressive and > simply putting him on a general psychiatric ward > may well not be suitable). Frequently the only > space - at least short term - where someone > displaying psychotic behaviour to be held is a > police cell, and the police are neither trained, > nor are police cells suitable, for this. What you > are describing is an ideal - I do know that > waiting times for patients with mental problems > which require psychiatric intervention are bad and > getting worse.

Throwing hot coffee in a woman?s face and throwing an elderly man to the floor is a criminal offence and Police should intervene. Agree with blah blah, Police will be able to get him support if required. Talk on here about mental health issues is just speculation. Unfortunately he seems to be targeting more vulnerable people in our community and I hope he gets picked up soon. Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All the descriptions here suggest the man is > displaying clear signs of psychotic behaviour - > the police are neither trained nor resourced to > act as psychiatrists - all they can do is to lock > him up, and we know that this is frequently a > precursor to self-harm, or worse, injury caused by > police attempts to restrain someone not criminal > but mad. Ideally he should probably be sectioned > and hospitalised, but there are woeful shortages > of acute beds. The waiting list for tertiary > (hospital) psychiatric care is many months if not > longer. It may be that he has medication but is > refusing to take it - and people cannot be obliged > or compelled to take medicine unless sectioned. > This is a problem which is not simply soluble by > dialling '999'. Anything the police can do will > only be very short term. And probably pretty > useless (other than protecting individuals > currently at risk).

Seems to be frequenting between Peckham Park and East Dulwich Grove, wearing the same clothes so should be easy for the Police to pick up.

Saw him about 20 minutes ago on Deventer Crescent, East Dulwich Grove Estate. Going by other posts he seems to be around this area (near the schools) around 3pm. My partner also saw him arguing with an elderly person on their doorstep on Deventer Crescent last Saturday. He only left the elderly man when he got his walking stick out. He seems well enough to pick his targets.

Velodrome has plenty of parking inside and many travel to the velodrome by bicycle already. Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Three things stand out for me here: > > 1. The sports clubs on Burbage road, including the > velodrome, will be very badly affected by these > proposals. > > 2. The sneaky way the council insist a new CPZ > across the EDG /Townley Road, Lordship Lane / > Court Lane area will be necessary > > 3. The reincarnation of the proposals to gate off > Melbourne Grove

Lordship lane and it's shops are not even within the incoming cpz and there will still be free parking on lordship lane and most surrounding streets so how is it affected? Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Abe - spot on. If memory serves me rightly the > last council accounts showed a ?6m+ surplus from > CPZs, car parks and parking fines which was > re-invested in roads. > > Those who campaigned hard for the CPZ got their > wish - very much at the expense of everyone else - > the numbers for and against in the consultation > speak for themselves and we are all smart enough > to see how the council "adapted" the consultation > to fit their objectives. > > Hurrah for the "winners". Unfortunately, we will > all have to live with the consequences and I am > sure those who thought they won will be amongst > the first to bemoan the boarding up of shops along > Lordship Lane and the loss of a unique local > community.

Lol! Not yet but I am now looking forward to implementation. I do sympathise as we are currently suffering now due to implementation of parking controls in neighbouring areas. Unfortunately it's inevitable as more are introduced but residents are usually very happy once they get a cpz. rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > roywj Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I live within the incoming CPZ area and I am in > > support of its implementation as were the > majority > > of my neighbours living within its boundaries. > > > > It seems like posters on here against the > scheme > > are worried about the knock on effect on > parking > > in their own roads following implementation of > the > > CPZ, which I can fully understand as I have > > experienced it first hand > > I'm alright jack

I live within the incoming CPZ area and I am in support of its implementation as were the majority of my neighbours living within its boundaries. It seems like posters on here against the scheme are worried about the knock on effect on parking in their own roads following implementation of the CPZ, which I can fully understand as I have experienced it first hand.

Agree with your previous posts about reducing car use and I believe that the CPZ will reduce commuters traveling to and parking in the CPZ area. I think it's a step in the right direction and certainly doesn't encourage people to keep a car due to the additional cost and less availability of parking due to parking controls. rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The CPZ is not about reducing car use. If anything > it encourages people to keep a car. It certainly > increases the already high sense of entitlement > that most car users have with regards domination > over public space.

Came back on for 5 minutes and went off again. So annoying

They said the same to me when I rang up and booked me in for repair on Wednesday. However just got a text saying they have put the repair on hold as there is a network issue.

Sporthuntor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So as expected here comes the CPZ...surprise > factor = 0 after the super biased consultation! > > > https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/r > oadworks-and-highway-improvements/traffic-manageme > nt-orders?chapter=5 Looking forward to it's implementation, can see the increased parking since the schools have been back