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Lol I take its the city of, and not the residents of Melbourne Grove......

Have you noticed how people like Billy all have the same MO, they find something insignificant to pick at, and keep picking at it until the original poster gets bored of their games all the while trying to make the poster look stupid and twist their words, yet not once do they answer direct questions put to them that challenge their beliefs. It's like they have all been issued a rule book of engagement. It's a pity that the same rules book doesn't contain the rules of safe sociable cycling because if ot did, we would all get along a heck of a lot better. I would also like to add, Billy I'm bored of you now, go play with someone who gives a damn about your games. Although that's possibly a solitary sport.

I used to have deliveries from the now defunct Yeh Wa on Barry Road, always excellent, and since they shut down many years ago when the landlord first wanted to develop the site, I've been using 148 Having spent time in China, whilst they have westernised the menu, it is far from poor or mediocre, so it could simply be that ordering on an extremely busy night, just before they close for their summer holidays didn't result in the best experience. As said, there are better, more authentic Chinese resturants where ducks tongue is served, but locally I would say 148 does a damn fine job, always quick to deliver, uses their own drivers (not pay a massive cut to justuber ) and are normally very helpful, nice staff. So rather than everyone jump on one person's poor review and try and bury them, why not as Sue says, give them a go when they are back and maybe you will be pleasantly surprised. .

I clearly gave you my answer already, and I also explained the balance as in removing all bus lanes is idiotic as is removing all parking. That way is a sure fire killer for our already fragile shopping areas. Currently across London, with the exception of where bus lanes have been turned into cycle lanes, everything is in balance. Now why won't you answer the point about if bus lanes are oh so sacred, then why do you seem to accept removing them to make cycle lanes.. Either they are or they aren't important, no halfway house Billy, as you are just using tactics seen so many times of failing to answer and honing in in a minor detail. So over to you, if bus lanes are so important, do you agree or disagree that passenger journey times for mass transit systems should be sacrificed for cyclists benefit?

Have you actually engaged with those who are less able than you or have additional needs or are you just spinning your wheels making opinions without facts As someone who has considerable mobility challenges, I have a fairly good insight to the issues, where as you obviously don't and what is a slight inconvenience for you could be a major hurdle for others. Absolutely fed up with ableism on here by people like you. So your challenge, get strapped into a wheelchair for a week, you can borrow my spare , and without getting out of the chair for any reason, including getting on and off transport, goung to the loo and eating out (imagine the fun of finding your curry house toilets are downstairs only), try and navigate your life, and only then come back and say its all easy to get around. Your first challenge get a train out of Peckham Rye and travel to Stratford.

Again, you are trying to put words in my mouth. If you keep this up my mouth will be stretched wider than the Blackwall tunnel 😅 Lets be clear, I am not advocating removing bus lanes for parking, where they are installed they generally work well, but I am advocating not ruining a town centre by removing visitor parking to add in an unnecessary 24 hour bus lane. just like I am advocating not removing bus lanes for cycle lanes as that snacks of double standards. Something you can't seem to agree on so obviously you don't believe bus lanes are that sacramental.

You have the answer for everything without having to live in the shoes of those it impacts sir. Whilst there is free school travel for all under 18s, sometimes the route is to complex for those with mobility or cognitive impairments. Live in their shoes before condemning them to an impossible journey. Because we need both forms of transport and one size won't fit all in a busy cosmopolitan city. But if bus lanes are so important to you why are you ignoring their removal for cycle lanes ?

Is anyone suggesting that Billy ? I can't see anyone advocating that at all. There is a happy balance to strike and pushing the pendulum too far either way will break the system is the point I am making here. Your point on bus lanes, if they are so key, then why are TfL removing them for cycle lanes ? You can't have it both ways either bus lanes are key to making buses faster, as per your opinion, or they aren't. But if they are then they should be sacrosanct and not interfered with or removed where they are already installed. Simple really, but currently the push to cycling doesn't rate bus journeys as important on the face of it.

Speaking as someone who mostly uses buses to correct your assumption. If cars are parked in bus lanes, they get fined so unless the parking is allowed (e.g. timed bus lanes) then it's going to cost the driver for infringement and hopefully they won't do it again. The consequence of removing the timing of the bus lane on Lordship Lane (make it 24 hours) would have a disastrous impact on the retail businesses which potentially could see the area go down as a destination. Be careful what you wish for ....

Okay As i mentioned before I don't believe parked cars slow down buses Reasons are as follows 1. Majority of bus routes are on wider streets that can accommodate both buses traversing and cars being parked, so in these situations parked cars won't impact the speed of the bus. Clear examples are Barry Road, Lordship Lane and Peckham Rye. In fact, what has occured is that the standout bus stops that were installed to stop cars infringing on where buses pull in, have now had the effect of slowing down all road users when a bus stops there, sometime actually other buses. 2. On some routes, p14 for example, they are designed to traverse narrower residential streets where the timetable has been built around the route and road conditions so again there is no impact on speed by parked cars. 3. Regardless, buses are obliged to stop at all bus stops and pick up passengers and also travel at the speed limit of 20 mph (where they can) and with the distance between stops so short then there is little chance for Lewis Hamilton style driving through London so speed isn't a factor. 4. If the cycling lobby (used in a loose context) get their way and remove all cars from Londons streets then more people would use buses, which in turn would make them more crowded, leading to a. More buses required per route thus making roads just as congested. b. More people getting on and off at each stop, increasing time at each bus stop. c. More frequent stopping at request stops Therefore removing cars would potentially have the effect of slowing buses down as they become more popular. But as we all know, cities like London need a multitude of different vehicles to make them work, be it buses, trams, delivery vehicles, trade vehicles (imagine your washing machine repair man coming out and going, sorry love, gotta get a bus to Barnet to get you a new drum to fix that, ) emergency services, disabled drivers, long distance commuters who can't get to their destination any other way, parents who need to drive children for medical or health reasons, care workers vehicles, ....the list is endless so be careful what you wish for as the realisation may be harder to achieve without damaging the way a modern city operates. Buses actually are fairly quick along Lordship Lane and rarely have issues traversing it so you are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist

As you like to keep digging, I've ordered you one of these from toolstation near the Horniman's museum. https://www.toolstation.com/hawksmoor-all-steel-digging-spade/p67067?store=GE&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed You can take a bus (185, 176) from dog kennel hill to collect it and find out for yourself 😂

Again, truing to twist and put words in my mouth that I didn't say. Maybe you should work for the Trump campaign as your tactics seem to echo his 🤣

Again trying to incorrectly twist what I say, keep going as it is making you look even sillier Billy Did anyone actually suggest that we remove bus lanes for parking or is that all in your mind? You really are trying to make parking on wide streets where buses can also traverse without issues seem to be a problem when it's not. Yet you are ignoring that where bus lanes are removed for cycle lanes, it has a massive impact on journey times. Getting bored of your pedantic comments now

Don't be a silly Billy When bus lanes are removed and replaced by cycle lanes, it slows buses down. As said, apart from a few residential streets, buses tend to traverse roads that have enough room for parked cars and buses to pass freely so your argument is nonsensical. Keep twisting, eventually you will tie yourself up in knots....

It doesn't suggest that at all, you are simply twisting words to suit your narrative. If you think I did then you are very suggestible.

Buses have bus lanes, they also operate mainly on wide roads where if cars are parked, it doesn't block them from moving so absolutely I do believe that parked cars, unless blocking the road for all users, don't slow down buses. What does slow down buses, are when cycle lanes are installed where bus lanes used to be, take Waterloo bridge as a prime example, or the Aldwich, both areas are now slower for buses then before TfL installed cycle lanes or pedestrian areas.

Again you try to find hidden meaning in things. 😅 I am not going to be drawn by you nit picking a few words that you have selectively focused on. Accept the fact that a proper comstructive conversation needs to be had over how to incentives people to be less reliant on cars, where it is realistic and practical, rather than using a stick and making money from it. Unfortunately the human psyche is more lilkely to push back at being forced to do something, rather than discussing and agreeing a joint way forward.

That's rubbish Billy At the moment it's school holidays and traffic is freer flowing, yet the buses aren't quicker. They still stop at the same stops, pick up as many passengers and are restricted to 20 mph. In fact if one dares to be quicker, then the dreaded "driver will wait here to regulate the service" occurs so even with less cars around, buses take just as long to get to their destination.

Absolutely not, I knew someone would ask that sort of stupid question hence why the words "for example" followed it. If the cost of parking outside your own home is higher or the same as parking at your destination then maybe some people would choose to drive under those circumstances so a cpz where parking is restricted during the day doesn't make sense as a tool for reducing ownership and driving, however councils have hoodwinked us by using parking pressures and reduction in driving as an excuse for rolling them out. As I said, it's about time a constructive discussion was had maybe with a methaphorical carrot rather than a financial stick....

Today, the BBC carried a story about 22 people they want to interview BBC News - Twenty-two people police want to find over disorder https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74jl82445xo Love this guys image, basically it could be 80% of over weight 30s something men...

Smacks of a publicity stunt from the description above. Possibly not but if it quacks like a duck....

The concept that paying a fee to park will stop you driving is frankly ludicrous, if a driver has the choice between paying a small fortune to have a car outside their house all day plus cost of public transport vs driving the same car to a free car park at work (for example) then it's a no brainer which they choose and the cost of a CPZ hasn't then detered them from choosing alternative transport and encouraged them to drive more. Equally for a lot of people, especially outside of the center of London, a car is the only viable form of transport available and whilst, as Mal likes to harbinger on about, it's a big expense it is not always a luxury so additional costs of ownership (parking, tolls, congestion charges) don't discourage but do remove family funding from much needed areas (food, clothes... ) It's about time local authorities and government stopped seeing car drivers as a source of income and had grown up conversations about what is needed to help people become less reliable on cars. All that is occurring at the moment is resentment and the feeling that a car is a cash cow for authorities to milk.

It has to be a Southwark consultation hub for future changes to "the square" as that's a full time occupation for that team... 😀

Regardless of the reason, it's sad if they have gone

Obviously one thing we are lacking is another DIY / trade tools type place. I mean we only have Toolstation, screwfix, Dulwich DIY, Plough, Shaun's and Leyland and there is so much improvement that needs to occur locally (not forgetting Labro in nunhead of course) . Stroll on homepage or wicks or b&q (lol did you know there is a " Be in queue" in Peckham? )