honk

We need a gun shop. I've been on the phone to someone or other at the council all morning and urge you all to do the same.

Unless there is a massive sign on the side of the building reading 'Wacky Warehouse', you have no business taking children anywhere where there may be other people.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > jon > > Well there is a question! I think so but I know > others that don't. I think an exaggerated version > of the stereotypical Dulwich Village-living, > high-earning-partner-marrying, lady of lunch who > has no concept of reality beyond her provileged > borders is ripe for humour and I think she hits > the target as often as not > > But if casual readers of the forum don't know > that, then it just appears crass and offensive > which I think is a shame After all this time, it makes sense. A 'comedy' character. How wonderful. Neil Boorman you are not.

ed_pete Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you're not confident going down there as > someone says use the 63 route, but if someone's > going to take you off your bike they're going to > do it anywhere. > > Rubbish - the reason they use the Surrey Canal is > because (a) it's darker and therefore easier to > hide, (b) they're less likely to get caught and > © it's regularly used by cyclists. I don't > imagine the same group go about knocking cyclists > off their bikes on the Walworth Road for example. OK, so you've deduced why a bunch of undesirables might hang around in dark, secluded spots. If dark, secluded spots aren't your thing, then avoid them. If the only way someone is going to separate you from your bike is by them prising open your cold, dead hands, then as you were. Next thread.

JamesG Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > where is Surrey Canal? The bit probably being referred to here (it used to run all the way to the Thames) runs up the side of Peckham library up to the Old Kent Road. It's since been filled in but you can still see remnants of a towpath. As with all areas of London at night, it is recommended you exercise caution and common sense. And also that you're more likely to be hit by a car than attacked down there.

fractionater Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dulwichmum Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I am horrified by this. Poor Tosh. I think > that > > none of us should ever go to Peckham, not ever. > > > Indeed, I am about to pen a letter to my MP > > insisting that the whole of Dulwich become a > gated > > community. > > > > Perhaps we could have some kind of electric > wiring > > type of arrangement constructed. I hear that > the > > building of ten foot walls can be expensive. > > They've built a "Protective wall" around > Israel...lets use the proposed Zebra crossing > money to build a wall around ED! Er... And then begin shelling from the other side?

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am horrified by this. Poor Tosh. I think that > none of us should ever go to Peckham, not ever. > Indeed, I am about to pen a letter to my MP > insisting that the whole of Dulwich become a gated > community. > > Perhaps we could have some kind of electric wiring > type of arrangement constructed. I hear that the > building of ten foot walls can be expensive. I imagine the residents of Peckham are already WAY ahead of you in getting this fast-tracked through. A massive great flyover from East Dulwich Road to Brixton would be a nice addition.

I've cycled through there, daily, for the best part of 3 years. It's a combination of luck and common sense. If you're not confident going down there as someone says use the 63 route, but if someone's going to take you off your bike they're going to do it anywhere.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > honk - I haven't called a betting shop a problem - > not in the last year anyway. I think the post I > made on the previous page (20th Jan 2008) says all > I need to say on that subject > > I was merely pointing out that your statement re: > the public wants was simplistic to the point of > being facile Does anything on here ever elevate above the facile? A betting shop would not open in ED if they thought they were going to lose money. ergo there is demand. Maybe not from the morally-superior denizens of this here forum, but there is demand.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > So THAT'S why society is so sorted and we don't > have any problems any more... people get what they > want! > > Cordelia, is that you? Calling a betting shop a 'problem' is surely purely subjective. Why is that a 'problem' and a pub isn't? I guess betting shops don't sell upmarket bangers and mash for ?11 and do a kid's menu.

Public gets what the public wants. Someone's done a feasibility study and worked out a new betting shop is feasible. If you're so outraged, don't go in there.

Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Most of Nunhead is a cemetary. Surely to GOD that > tells you something about the place... Ooh, rhetoric. Go on, what? That it immediately makes it more interesting than the majority of ED?

benlechef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Celebrate Valentine's Day with a meal at one of > our restaurants. Enjoy an unforgettable experience > with the special person in your life. > > Special Valentine's Day menus have been created > especially for the day. > > To find out more information regarding the > Valentine's Day menus and availability please > contact our reservations team: > the magnolia I'd rather be shackled in rags, being fed saucepanfuls of my own boiling blood by a masked torturer than sit in the company of other couples on Valentine's Day.

The Gowlett is the most bearable in the area. Palmerston is good for food, but full of braying poshos bleating loudly into Blackberry speechtools. If you're a seething misanthrope best give most of LL a miss.

I'd put it down to higher average wage in ED meaning more people able to afford a concubine to blow strawberry-scented oxygen into their ailing lungs if they so wanted, which pushes the life-expectancy right up. Not rocket science.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yarp, I got that too, Felicity. > > It seems that racism is alive and thriving in > Honk. How does it feel Honk mate, to hate someone > for the colour of their skin? I'm not even going to answer such a pointless comment.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > honk, you're beginning to stray out of character. > > Concentrate, please! If we can keep the tone of this thread somewhere around 'predictable sarcasm', we might distract people enough to ward off another Ocado thread being created.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- it's just that most > people wouldn't bother sticking around in a place > which made them want to kill everyone in the > entire world. Somewhere, underneath all the layers of whining, over-privileged cosseted Home Counties types shouting their insides out about parking, and calling for the immediate public flogging of anyone 'not right'....Somewhere underneath all that is a semi-alright area.

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I really don't know what race has to do with any > of this honk - it seems to me that black people > and white people both pay their taxes and are both > worthy of crime prevention. Surely no one > disagrees with that. > It has nothing to do with it. By 'white' I meant 'middle class', it's a saying where I - oh, never mind.

BlueOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So why not move to a neighbourhood less likely to > bring out your innate psychotic tendencies? > > Haven't seen the old: "If you don't like our ways, > get out" argument for a while! It's been at least 2 days, I know!

Lizziedjango Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why are you 'concerned' Louisa? What else is worth living for?

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, honk, from the sentiment you have just > expressed are you saying that East Dulwich is a > powder keg ready to explode - and if so do you > think that East Dulwich taxes are getting the bang > for the buck (?42,000) necessary to combat crime, > in an area incidentally that has more burglaries > per capita, than for instance, south Camberwell > and north Peckham? Burglaries yes, what with being an affluent area with stuff worth stealing. Violent crime, not a spit in the ocean compared with the rest of London. Which is more worthy of money would you say?

Imagine if Waitrose opened in ED. That would really complete some people's lives.

And leave it for a bunch of cosseted ex-Home Counties white supremacists? Never. FelicityNormal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So why not move to a neighbourhood less likely to > bring out your innate psychotic tendencies? > > honk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > FelicityNormal Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Is Honk a racist prick? :) > > > > > > The key factor in ED being relatively > low-crime > > is > > > the fact that it is now a very middle-class > > area > > > (it certainly wasn't always). Middle-class > > > neighbourhoods tend to have lower levels of > > street > > > crime. It has nothing to do with race, it has > > to > > > do with class. A black middle-class > > neighbourhood > > > will also have low-crime. England is such a > > mess > > > in terms of racism that a black middle-class > > > neighbourhood in London does not even exist, > > > however I've lived in black middle-class > > > neighbourhoods abroad and there is low crime. > > > > When you have a good career, nice home, are > > > educated and so on you tend to feel less > > incentive > > > to go out into the street and knife your > peers. > > > > > (That said, middle-class whites are fantastic > > at > > > white-collar fraud crimes and deception). > > > > Dunno, living in East Dulwich is enough to make > me > > want to kill everyone in the entire world, > > starting with people like you and ending with > > myself, so I wouldn't say that's a completely > > watertight theory.

FelicityNormal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I purchased a lovely bottle of organic Italian red > from Green and Blue yesterday. what a lovely story.