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  1. You missed the newsagents and the bookies, guv...
  2. Indeed. The rebrand into the two victims/underdogs is pretty tragic, as are the racist aspersions. DF - you've never clamoured for Afro-Caribbean eateries either that I can recall? Red herring... Interesting re Southerden. Ellie's lacklustre, cat-hair infested baked goods didn't last there either (I suspect unrestrained cannibalism of stock) - obviously not quite the spot for it.
  3. With the proper Victoria evening and Sunday trains to come in Jan, this will only get better. Those additional hourly Faversham/Dover trains also - for people coming from Bromley and beyond. Victoria-wise, they are only a few mins apart from one of the existing Dartford trains, so doesn't really equate to an every 20 min service. Longer Overground trains might attract people put off by crowds too. Shame the Thameslink route isn't getting much in the way of improvements - quite the busy station now!
  4. A veritable massacre...
  5. jj2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some italians are more open to other cuisenes, > other less, but I don't think it's a matter of > being condescending, it's just a matter in some > cases of being such in love with something, not to > be tempted to look elsewhere. > It personally took me a while to try for example > asian cousines, but now I love them. > > But this was not my original point, nor I believe > is on the topic of this thread. > My point was that I don't see any valid reason why > in the UK most italian products have to be > marketed and sold by places targeting a more > upscale clientele. > > There is no real reason why the two things should > marry together. In Italy we have expensive/classy > food places, as well as 'working-class' places. > They target different types of clientele with > slightly different products and of course > different prices. > > Places like Burro&Salvia are one type of places > that exist in Italy and I am happy they are > replicated in the UK. > What I would be even more happy though, would be > to see more more down-to-earth (and consequently > less expensive) places selling similar products. > > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > Exactly, you've mirrored my experience. > Italians > > can be very open with their food, with "anyone > who > > wants to learn about Italian cuisine". However > my > > original point is that this can often be a one > way > > street. I hasten to add once more that this is > my > > experience, since you seemed to miss that point > > originally, but I have found Italians to be > very > > parochial and condescending to other cuisines. This is 100% correct in my experience, with the exception of the Milanese and sushi. Italians just aren't interested in foreign food (or people) much - their culture is focused around Italy, home, family, tradition and so on, not a criticism but how it is largely.
  6. Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > cle Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > No idea what a 'South London budget' is either > > Louisa - talk about generalisation. Most people > > gladly spend a few quid more on decent food > these > > days. Don't equate your own failure, poverty or > > chips & beans nostalgia with others' tastes. > Vulgarian. > > Sorry cle I wasn't aware you were some sort of > demographic expert on London. Thanks for letting > us all know though, glad you've put me straight on > what "decent food is" and that everyone in south > London can afford to waste money on pretentious > overpriced food that tastes and looks the same as > the food the rest of us eat. I have opinions and > I'm entitled to them. Whole neighbourhoods > hijacked by posh right on lefties who are experts > on food clearly equates to boring clones of the > same types of overpriced foody destinations. > > Louisa. Yes, indeed when it comes to sweeping generalisations on this board about class, human behaviour and people's wealth and means - possibly there is room for another to share your limelight? "The rest of us" - haha
  7. Is Chelsea synonymous with Indian restaurants then? Who knew... You guys should go and find your own Emmerdale or Ambridge bubble to live in. This is London - it evolves and certainly the advent of good food in this country shouldn't be sniffed at. Nor should new people, so unwelcoming. No idea what a 'South London budget' is either Louisa - talk about generalisation. Most people gladly spend a few quid more on decent food these days. Don't equate your own failure, poverty or chips & beans nostalgia with others' tastes. Vulgarian.
  8. The precedent is sadly the ludicrous Northern line extension to Battersea Power Station, being paid for my the American Embassy, Malaysian tycoons etc etc. Clearly that eextension could have run from Kennington/Oval down to Camberwell or Brixton but now that's squandered. I'm not sure what OKR plans there are, but I believe there are some. I don't know who'd want to live there in terms of fancy apartments, it's nowhere near the Thames which seems to be the pacifier for south of the river investors. And equally, there is 'Elephant Park' and a ton of potential crappy estates through Walworth and Camberwell which could be rebuilt. Could they do a Heygate (with less corruption) on the Aylesbury? And Camberwell itself has lots of development, around Kings/Maudsley and the old pool hall etc... but doesn't seem on their radar. Maybe it could be a short spur off the main OKR which probably is better if you're heading to Hayes. But then 27 trains per hour need to be divvied up, and the Beckenham Junction element detracts 6 already.
  9. James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Healeay, > Camberwell and Walworth Road rail stations didn't > survive an extensive tram network being installed. > The trams went but the Bakerloo line extension > building works started around that time but then > stopped. > So I would suggest people argue for one of two > extensions via Camberwell and further south as > well as Old Kent Road. > If it fails we plug the Southwark Supertram or > reopening those railway stations. > History suggests pushing for all thos things is > likely to see none of them come to pass. Would these stations have four platforms to allow both Denmark Hill and Herne Hill line trains to stop? Assuming the Camberwell one would be by The Bear?
  10. Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "OKR has nothing in terms of a destination, just > retail parks and rubbish." > > > Is a retail park not a destination that people > might like to get to? If you fancy buying a washing machine from Curry's or some tiles from B&Q, and then taking them on the Bakerloo line, perhaps...
  11. rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I will complete it, but suspect that it's a fait > accompli for Old Kent Road and another 'exciting > new quater*' for London > > *1 and 2 bedroom flats, as expensive as they are > souless, marketed exclusively to overseas > investors Yes I completely agree. The 'this won't happen without new development' part was pretty definitive. But I did my bit - suggested that maybe we could have both branches if it did terminate at Lewisham. And that 'our route' has two main town centres (plus art school, hospitals/medical school, Peckham Rye interchanges, nightlife) whereas the OKR has nothing in terms of a destination, just retail parks and rubbish.
  12. James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My undertstanding is that they're planning to > deliver fewer superhighways but to a much higher > standard. > So instead of lots of blue tarmace actual > segregated cycle paths. Now I'd dispute the > detailed design which I believe is flawed but the > thinking of making new facilities to a much higher > standard is for me a good thing. I agree with this. Proper grade separated cycleways are better than the current bits of paint we have. As long as one comes this way, that is...
  13. Can't you leave it at work? If everyone's gone, nip back and bring it in. Then come in early next day and remove to usual spot, if an issue...
  14. brezzo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i am not against private schools per se, but > laughed out loud at the comment that the alma > mater of David Cameron & Boris Johnson takes its > status as a charitable institution seriously. What specifically about the comment (rather than its previously unmentioned and irrelevant alumni) was funny?
  15. I didn't play a man though, I didn't single anyone out (except the histrionics of 'I abhor' which I stand by).
  16. rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's true that not all independent schools are the > same and that Alleyn's is certainly more inclusive > and outward looking than many. This discussion has > moved into a more general conversation about the > place of private education however which is a > valid one. It's ridiculous to invoke 'class > warriors' and 'drum banging', which is just a way > of closing down a legitimate debate. I don't think it's a way of shutting down a debate - it's a way of framing an alternative perspective, making the point about not all private schools being the same (which you acknowledge) and adding a bit of depth and colour to what has been quite a black & white, one-sided discussion. I can't see that all this shrill "I abhor..." nonsense isn't an attempt to shut down debate or indeed, chippy shouldered class whinging. Ironically, with a turn of phrase so pompous to make an Etonian English 'master' roll his eyes.
  17. There are shades of grey here. Not all schools (private or state) are equal. Alleyn's is not Eton - it's a day school, co-ed, inner city and next to an estate etc... Just a chance for the usual tedious class warriors to bang their drums.
  18. cle

    The Nunhead Bite

    PEXMAS Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes we did charge in our first year - partly in > support of partner charities and partly to help > fund the whole event which is extraordinarily > expensive. We didn't want to charge folks, was > simply the only way for the event to exist, and so > as soon as we had grown enough to build up some > funding and make the event free we did! Haven't > charged for our public events in over a year and > don't plan to again! Pretty sure I was charged to go into your Christmas market on Elm Grove. Instant back up after being nickel & dimed, hence no purchases despite seeing some decent stuff. Saw a lot of the same from other people... poor stallholders. I can survive without a Peckham tea towel after all.
  19. Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think they should bring in someone like Taco > Bell with a small outlet. Ideal for a cinema. > > Louisa. Crunchy taco shells. Burritos with rice and sauce falling out. Hot melted cheese. Perfect for a cinema!
  20. You could hide...
  21. Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just moved a 10 min walk away, the other side of > bellenden rd. Would have quite happily stayed on > Ivanhoe Rd if the right house had come up. As cle > says, the north end is quieter, with bigger > gardens. But it's all fine. > > There are lots of nice roads around... Grove Hill > Rd is really nice. Oglander/Ondine Rd and the side > roads off them are good. It's all in the eye of > the beholder I guess. But in terms of being in the > middle of all the good stuff, Ivanhoe rd is > perfect. Are you on what I have heard described as the 'Champs Elys?e of Peckham', Choumert Grove ? My second favourite local estate agentism, after any Wooster & Stock descriptions.
  22. Ivanhoe Road is great, especially the northern end. Not on the way to anywhere, so very quiet. Bang in between all the various high streets you'd want to be and a good choice for transport. Those houses which back onto the railway are bigger than they look, and have that cheeky additional bit of railway garden. On the other side, the gardens are a bit crap. Slightly cheaper cabs due to SE5 postcode.
  23. I thought there were going to be many more trains each hour? And also on the Catford/Sevenoaks line which stops at Denmark Hill and Peckham Rye? Is this due to those complaining Wimbledon Loop numpties?
  24. Unless the higher bits are also over your boundary. Offer them the chance to remedy it, but with a deadline and on that date, you will begin. Perhaps they could come round and see it from your garden, might help empathy a bit. Otherwise, sneak over and lime it.
  25. It's called Camberwell Station Road after all, rather tantalisingly. Might help the appalling traffic if more people took the train and (yes, again) buses to Elephant were looked at correspondingly...
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