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KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That?ll be a consolation to someone dying of Covid > contracted from a runner who came too close ! Well I've already repeated numerous times that I do give plenty of distance. My frustration is with those who cannot be bothered to even partly reciprocate. I see exactly the same thing whether I'm walking or jogging. From the way most people behave (not social distancing), I can only conclude that contracting Covid is not really a major concern. wordsworth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Let's all clap for joggers then Not really. Lots of runners/joggers are terrible, not giving any distance, or showing awareness of their surroundings. Running round blind corners without slowing, or running straight past bus stops. Lots of them have a terrible attitude. I do not have some sort of bizarre joggers vs pedestrian axe to grind. I have an issue with able-bodied people not socially distancing.

No. I am the one who takes distancing seriously. I move over. I give people plenty of space. It's not a "runner vs pedestrian" argument for me. Everyone should cooperate and give each other space, as long as you are able. Maybe make eye contact, smile... bloody hell, even say thank you. I just don't see people behaving that way. Someone who refuses to change course even 1ft... they're either lazy or have an attitude problem.

Approaching from behind - runner should make the space. Approaching head on - should be 50/50 (with runner's responsibility to assess mobility issues, etc). Assuming two able-bodied people, you have equal time and ability to respond. Shifting over to one side of the pavement is not exactly difficult. A cooperative attitude is better than a combative one.

vegancow Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did you know the Phizer Vaccine has not been > approved by the FDA. It has only been authorised > for emergency use. > https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vacci > nes/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained Why is that a concern? The drug still has to go through full clinical trials and prove efficacy. It's just a mechanism for them to speed up the rollout in times of emergency. What is your agenda here, vegancow? Vaccine fear-mongering? Downplaying the death toll? What next?

The number of deaths within 28 days of testing positive for covid in the UK is quite close to the excess deaths over and above the average rate. 119K vs 116K so far. So if it has been over-counted, it is only fairly marginal. So not only are you spreading false info about vaccines, you're also trying to play down the tragic death toll.

Well I jog a few times a week. I am completely unapologetic about that. Like I say, I try go out at night. But it always seems to be me making space for oncoming pedestrians, running into the road or mud, or waiting between parked cars to let people past. Almost never any sort of mutual cooperation. So tbh the bad will is not entirely one way. If you are one of the good ones (there are some), then thank you.

uplandrd2020 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is listed as what it contains, surely it should > say how it is made instead, either way, some > people may object to taking something made in this > way Thank you for modifying your original post, and no longer claiming the virus contains cells from chimpanzees and human fetuses. Yes I am sure you are right, some people may object to potentially millions of lives being saved using this technology. Some people object to all sorts of things. Some people are idiots.

uplandrd2020 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 2 sensible factual posts I made about vaccine > safety earlier have been removed, it is so strange > that no discussion about Vaccine Safety is > allowed. We have free speech on most other > topics, why can't we discuss this? I just replied to one of your posts. It is not factual, it contains completely incorrect information. I think it should be removed. This forum is carefully moderated. It is not a haven of "free speech". Try Parler instead.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Given the rules, would I be breaking them by > driving to Kew Gardens for exercise occasionally? Yes you would be breaking them, as you are travelling outside your local area. Ethically - I don't personally have much issue with it if you are careful about social distancing, but nevertheless it is not within the rules.

"Chimpanzee adenovirus vector" does not mean "Chimpanzee cells". And a cell line originating from a single aborted fetus (many years ago) does not mean that your vaccine contains bits of unborn baby. I wonder if admin could remove this thread, perhaps?

Pugwash Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Husband has stopped going to the park for his > daily exercise as too many people there, he finds > it quieter to walk around the streets The parks (both Dulwich and PR) are quite busy these days. Especially as the grass is very muddy/waterlogged, everyone is on the paths. I think it's OK for walking, but for jogging, it's best to find some quiet streets (ideally at night).

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If the parents/ carers are keeping a 2 metre > distance, in the open, that is likely to be fine, > mask wearing or not. But they are not... If we can keep our child away from playground, finding other things (indoors and outdoors) to do, then I don't see why others can't. It is not easy, but it's the sensible thing to do. It's not just about our personal health/safety, it's about controlling the spread. > For most people of child bearing age, and/ or > children, the disease even when caught is mild, > and may not even be noticeable. It's mild in kids. But in young or middle-aged adults, it can be pretty bad. Of my work colleagues (pool of around 40), 3 have had Covid this year. Two of them (25 yr old and 40-ish yr old) were very ill for over two weeks. One of their girlfriends required hospital treatment. My wife also has a colleague in his 30s, who caught covid and had to call an ambulance because he could not breathe. I really think people are not taking the severity of this virus seriously enough.

Yeah NZ and Aus have done a good job. As others have said, it's not quite a fair comparison as they're much more isolated, but nevertheless, if we'd had harder border control and quarantine rules, we'd be in much better shape. I have absolutely no doubt of that. What is the exit strategy for their hard border control? Probably a combination of global vaccinations and travel corridors. Gradually opening up to other countries, as and when they manage to contain infections.

bobbsy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Playgrounds need to be open, young children. And > parents standing around chatting, provided they > socially distance, are doing nothing wrong unless > it was a pre-arranged meeting. I disagree, you can play outside plenty of other ways (bikes, footballs, games, etc). Kids like playgrounds of course, but they do not NEED them. Swings and climbing frames, touched by countless children that day, seem distinctly unsafe to me. And parents ARE arranging to meet at playgrounds. Of course they are. So their kids can play together, while they stand round in groups and have a natter. I am not trying villainize the parents (playgrounds are open after all)... but it just doesn't seem right to me.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tarquin, Tabitha...and Trolley? They would get on like a house on fire, I am sure! Trolley sounds like a nice guy, happy mingling with all walks of life without preconceptions. And Tarqs & Tabs (TaTa as well call them!) have been brought up well, to be polite and respect the working classes such as cleaners, bus drivers, and digital marketing strategists.

I'd like to try it at some point. I think, objectively, it is fair to say that with those prices, the food needs to be exceptionally good. Ingredients, spices, and quality of cooking all need to be top notch. It's a totally different market to the "Lordship Lane Saturday night curry" thing. But best of luck - I am sure if the food is good, it will be a success. I look forward to treating Tarquin and Tabitha to a good meal (no spice in the kids food, please).

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This even includes hospital doctors, I heard on R4 > this morning. Unfortunately I am not surprised. I know a few doctors. Most are smart, but certainly not all...

I think Tessa Jowell centre have been contacting all their patients over 50 (or maybe 55). I can only assume they have excess capacity and don't want to waste any doses. Otherwise... as taper says, I do not believe that asthmatics or flu jab recipients will necessarily be in group 6.

I see it all the time... groups of parents standing round in (or next to) playgrounds, chatting while drinking their coffee. I think it's pretty irresponsible. Honestly, I don't think playgrounds should even be open at all at the moment.

intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't doubt that is not news ,but it is now > possible to go online and check whether the system > has reached your level of eligibilty .If so you > can book a slot > > https://www.nhs.uk/book-a-coronavirus-vaccination/do-you-have-an-nhs-number The program has now officially been expanded to group 6 (underlying health conditions) but this website only goes to group 5 (65+). Perhaps group 6 still need a GP invitation?

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A week or so ago, when we had a new daily high of > (I think it was) 1,560 I did some basic calcs > extrapolating the figure by remaining days to Xmas > (345) plus the then total of deaths. From memory > it was near 600k. I then reduced to a 1000 per day > level and extrapolated that - it was like 480k. I'm not optimsitic... but I'm less pessimistic than you. Vaccinations are happening. Around 10% of the population has had a first dose. Assuming a) we can keep this rate up, b) second vaccinations at the longer interval are still effective, c) manufacturers can tweak the formulas and push them through with accelerated testing.. I am hopeful that the UK will be in a good place later this year. Albeit with a few more painful months to come.

I don't dislike Kier, but he has failed to impress IMO. He basically seems (and is maybe happy to portray himself) as a moderate, pragmatic, safe pair of hands. Perhaps that's what we need. But I'm not seeing much vision or passion. What does he really stand for? I want to see some inspiration and energy coming from him well before the runup to the next election.

I thought The Drum was really odd. Tried going in for a drink a couple of times, it felt like gatecrashing someone's home. Only a handful of people there, and they all seemed to know each other!

You really need a water-filled base to stop it dropping and drooping. Trunk sharpened to a point and driven into a slice of log? That's for amateurs!

Isn't the "life goes on" attitude the reason we're so screwed now? The countries that made hard decisions and tough measures in the short term are the ones that have now returned to some form of normality. Regarding Enfield... I am familiar with the area. Enfield is reasonable diverse and voted Labour/Remain so I feel the picture you are painting is somewhat inaccurate. However, most of the immediately surrounding areas (on the Herts/Essex border) are hardcore Boris/Brexit territory.