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That editorial about EU and the Nick Clegg article can get in the sea tho - pure cakeism from 2015/2016

All fair and sensible points and yet OP. WHAT A ****

I think on that night everyone at the drinks was doing the karaoke as well The nights did vary from month to month - but more hits than misses I would say by far - and a chance to meet online "enemies" and find they were sound in the flesh

Grim and the U.K. govts past and present have no answers And even if they did the papers and enough of the population would rise up in protest and prevent far easier to complain and vote reform next time, watch everything get worse and complain some more https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/apr/20/nhs-cancer-patients-denied-life-saving-drugs-due-to-brexit-costs-report-finds?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Well, if you ever find yourself visiting, let us know

Still remember the time shortly after I moved to Lewes and bumped into Jamie Hooper - turns out he had been living in Lewes the whole time he ran the pub in London

I mean... the name alone is a bit of a red flag

Well yes. But only up to a point eu countries have had to spend a LOT of money to accommodate English madness - and has had to deal with years of incoherent positioning. It has destabilised the EU as a group - or has at the very least distracted it and consumed bandwidth which is why Putin was so pro-Brexit. Which enabled other subsequent events - it’s hard to imagine the world as it is now without Brexit. A stronger EU. Uk not a mess and in its own after multiple elections and way more prime ministers than 9 years could possibly allow a stronger united front

Imagine a country voting for something that has a major financial hit to a country and having an electorate and different governments too proud/embarrased/dumb to reverse said decision After 9 years America and Trump might be on a different scale but England could do with a bit of reflection before judging other countries (at a national level. I know lots of you sane, wise posters are not culpable)

which is why I call places and people calling it a Brexit Win Putin appeasers Why would Trump want to drive a wedge between UK and EU? Because he is mates with Putin and that's what Putin wants

Putin's little helpers (like theTelegraph) TRUMPeting (sorry not sorry) the fact that UK only gets 10% tariff from uSA as a Brexit Dividend and validating Starmer's qauiescence Which ignores so much The tariff was calculated on a childish deficit/exports calculation and ignored any discussion 25% on cars remains in place for UK as well The difference between 10% UK vs 20% EU is a fraction of the cost of Brexit anyway (that cost was dismissed as "worth it" or hand waved away - whereas this relatively small "Win" is heralded as a major victory plus in any case even if UK was on 0%, teh global fallout from this will massively impact UK as a standalone country anyway Of course not many countries escaped with 0% - oh but Russia did (although that is likely because they are already sanctioned)

"Best we can hope for in the short to medium term is the UK rejoins the single market. That would at least make Brexit work *better* than it currently does. " Not sure that is in any way feasible - what would UK give up to get that access? As soon as you go down that road all the usual suspects that got us into this mess will all be squealing all over again (spoiler: the Uk doesn't think it has to give anything up)

The voters in these redwall seats all complain of a broken Britain etc etc - yet see no connection between the country voting tory for 14 years and those towns voting for Brexit despite being warned it would lead to problems - they just moan about everything - often quite correctly (services are expensive or being cut, roads are a state, housing is expensive etc etc) but when you ask them when things were better.. well the answer is either a) under a labour government when we part of the EU or b) some fictional Facebook sepia tinted picture of Britain "when you could leave your front door open, we didn't know how lucky we were" Voters say they want the truth but when someone sane (if dull and sometimes wrong) gets into power and says "lads, things are worse than we realised" they bleat about a lack of instant fixes and say it's wrong to keep blaming the last government (despite the lie about Labour crashing the economy in 2008 STILL being a stick labour get beaten with in 2025) as for rejoining the EU - the barriers are immense - you have a press and a large portion of the population that will behave just abysmally. You have an electorate that recognises the mistake but is all very English and "made out beds, mustn't grumble" etc etc - no backbone. And you have an opposition party (or two) that is plain bonkers and when labour do lose power they would renege/reverse any progress made in matters EU in seconds Meanwhile EU countries can see all this clearly and have no incentive to engage until this country grows up and is able to demonstrate they won't act hysterically when reintegration starts

". Which ever way you cut it, the world has become a much more scary and dangerous place. " This is true, but what I can't get my head around is the "why?" Where is the win for Trump/America/Voters with all of these moves?

would be odd if both virgin AND Microsoft felt you needed to do something with your phone. Almost certainly a scam Saying that - a quick google shows there can be an issue between MS Outlook and Virgin re emails Paste the text of the messages in here and we can have a look sometimes the address can be similar - bit not quite right - as another way to fool