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JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm sure I've read of people being hurt by this. > > But obviously not often if it happens three times > a day :o Yes, do you remember this, http://metro.co.uk/2011/02/13/newbury-racecourse-dig-up-buried-electricity-cable-after-two-horses-die-638666/ Not people I know, but tragic. I remember listening to the events live on Radio 5. Initially inexplicable.

I guess that might be right. Hopefully in the long term the lights will put motorists off.

I've lived in East Dulwich for many years. But, in the last year I believe that I have observed an ever growing volume of traffic going on Lordship Lane. During the day it is pretty much permanently gridlocked. This seems to coincide with growing numbers of accidents; I find cycling down it genuinely frightening. What's going on? Where is this traffic coming from? Where is it going to? I don't think it is part of a national trend as on the whole car usage is declining.

Worst case scenario. A long and protracted global economic downturn turns East Dulwich into a Beckenham like suckhole...

We regularly drive and park there on Sundays. We tend to get there 10 minutes before opening time, never had a problem. Seemingly limitless free on street parking. Generally we get a place on Cromwell Road, but if we don't have any joy turn onto Gloucester Road and park round Queen's Gate Gardens.

That's cool, but if you just wanted something big and cheap Feltham would have been a better call...

It is very good. If you travel by train, you can generally get two for one tickets.

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry. Frustrating to see A Peckham Rye councillor > talking about a Lordship Lane issue so far from > the area they represent. Cool story bro. So how do I go about expressing my support for the new M & S?

Yes, may I offer thanks to the orginal poster for this brilliant news.

To me this seems a good thing all round. M&S sells nice stuff. I'm going to speculate that any incomers shopping at M&S are more likely to shop at the independent shops on Lordship Lane. The loss of a few parking spaces: mmmm a drop in the ocean, I reckon, the Saturday market probably consumes more spaces. I've lived in East Dulwich for some time and been to Iceland perhaps 10 times: weird place, not cheap, not particularly nice food. Pointless.

Is Iceland not a major store? Isn't it like for like in that respect?

I for one do not welcome the idea of a shop that sells nice food. How am I supposed to embrace the neo-mid twentieth century zeitgeist with this kind of establishment opening on my high street? This is an unacceptable threat to my middle class trendy lifestyle. Still I must keep calm and carry on: I'm off to darn some socks and make a pie from leftovers!!

My comments are based on my memories too, rather than an knowledge of music or history. But, I do have a sketchy memory of my cool friends, they wore Italian tracksuits and the like, moving seamlessly from hip hip to house and I recall hearing similarities between them at the time. I didn't, however grow up amongst London hipsters [i never have and never will own a pork pie hat], Chicago house didn't make it up north and I was listening to rubbish at the time; a big part of me feels that I missed out! My apparently controversial statement was designed to elicit a response as I am interested in people's personal experience of this period, rather than a dry historical treatsie. Also, loved the 30's rap, amazing.

Rakim is the G.O.A.T. Fair play djkq, imho 'paid in full' laid the foundations of house. 1986, my mates are break dancing down town to Rakim et al. 1987, they switch seamlessly to house, year zero for dance music. Hip hop in general. Nas, wu tang clan, talib kweli, outkast,kanye,lupe fiasco, pharoahe monch. All good in the hood.

Paraphrasing e-dealer. My beef is with the Estate not the schools. And yes, as far as the Dulwich Estate is concerned, I am resentful. You said it yourself, they are far from progressive. I resent any attempt on their part to claim altruistic motive. If you want to get childish you were happy to leave this thread with a vague assumption that the Estate is largely focused on providing for schools in the East end. Be honest. Just accept that many want exclusive education, I don't have a problem with that, but don't sugar it with vaguely altruistic claims and politicing.

No to the last point. The lion's share of the Estate's income goes to the private schools in Dulwich, Dulwich College et al. A small remainder goes to a very exclusive grammer school in Kent and something called,I think, the central London school's foundation. Make no mistake, the Estate exists primarily to protect the sensibilities of rich posh people.

A festival of East Dulwich-wide CPZ consultation would offer optimal value.

Just one day E-dealer. Just one day. Seems that this thread is disappearing back into council minutia anyway, so what does any of it matter? No doubt we will be informed that in 1650 Tessa Jowell passed a law banning groups of more than 50 persons gathering in south of the London Borough of Southwark for any activity that might, as judged by a panel of Calvinist scholars, be deemed to be pleasurable.

I'm getting carried away now, but I would enjoy a Lordship Lane festival. Close Lordship Lane for the day. The local businesses could host culinary, musical comedy and literary events. I reckon buses could be diverted along Barry Road or something.

On a serious note, I would suggest a comedy and literary festival. East Dulwich has traditionally had a strong showing in these areas. Perhaps a bit of folk music too.

Inspired e-dealer. Where did you get the idea from? Maybe combine it with a satirical council process monologue looped over the PA.

Fireworks sound good. Everyone enjoys a good display.

Yeh, I realised that I had misused the word with hindsight. But then like you I liked the word prescient. It makes a mad kind of sense. A crossing with a sense of foreboding hanging over it. The crossing itself having an awareness of impending tragedy. Anyway, I don't get this James Barber guy. Is he a troll? He seems to provide satirical insight into the internal workings of a dysfunctional council without any relevance to the immediate point. In the past I remember a character called Dulwich Mum who provided satirical and somewhat irrelevant input. Is the councillor character a creation of the same person? *Edited. I seem to lose the ability to use the English language when typing into a free text box.

I'm lost on this one James. You're a councillor for East Dulwich why are you banging on about the Dulwich Village School Crossing Patrols? More prescient are the crossings on East Dulwich Grove in East Dulwich. Cars tear along East Dulwich Grove at significant speeds and fly over the crossings without noticing children waiting to cross: I reckon that this applies to one in three cars. I personally know parents who take a long detour along Lordship Lane to avoid East Dulwich Grove. But that's by the by. Why hijack this thread with a non-sequitor?

"Edward Alleyn was not a degenerate, he was merely typical of his time." I am not too sure about that. I am uneducated and lack a knowledge of history. But, when did protestantism and puratinism rise? Anyhoo, this is a non-sequitor. I genuinely appreciated TownleyGreen's comment that the governers hope to offer more free places in the future. I think that could be universally beneficial, not just for those who get the places, but the staff and students at Alleyns. When that happens Alleyns will certainly go up in my estimation!